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Dec 13 2017 01:28am
EU pushes to curb Africa migration more, still split on hosting refugees

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-eu/eu-pushes-to-curb-africa-migration-more-still-split-on-hosting-refugees-idUSKBN1E62M3

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BRUSSELS (Reuters) - European Union leaders will discuss how to further curb immigration from across the Mediterranean over dinner on Thursday, but are as divided as ever on how to take care of refugees who still make it to Europe.




Maybe the EU could build a wall, or enact a travel ban.

Deja vu





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Turkey says world must recognise East Jerusalem as Palestinian capital

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-israel-oic/turkey-says-world-must-recognise-east-jerusalem-as-palestinian-capital-idUSKBN1E70KM

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The meeting of leaders and ministers from more than 50 Muslim countries takes place a week after U.S. President Donald Trump’s announcement on Jerusalem, which triggered widespread protests in the Middle East and Islamic world.


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Dec 13 2017 04:57am
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Macron seeks climate action after U.S. withdrawal from Paris accord

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-summit-macron/macron-seeks-climate-action-after-u-s-withdrawal-from-paris-accord-idUSKBN1E6007


Good for Macron. It's far past time for folks to get serious about the climate, not just tell others to get serious.
IMO, the US pulled out for this very reason. We were assuming a very unfair amount of the costs of the Paris Climate agreement.

I think that a graph showing pollution vs. population vs. land area vs. amount spent (under the Paris Climate agreement), it will be obvious, that the US was paying far more than their fair share.


The USA didn't pull out because of an unfair distribution of costs; they pulled out because they don't want the cost at all. Present day economy is way too important. Earth's future is for our children and grandchildren to worry about.
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Dec 13 2017 06:52am
Quote (Leevee @ 13 Dec 2017 11:57)
The USA didn't pull out because of an unfair distribution of costs; they pulled out because they don't want the cost at all. Present day economy is way too important. Earth's future is for our children and grandchildren to worry about.


earths future and ours are not dependent on climate change if thats what you are talking about

the climate is your smallest problem when trump builds a pipeline in your backyard and delivers protected areas to mining companies that will turn them into toxic wastelands
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#154
Dec 13 2017 01:43pm
Quote (Leevee @ Dec 13 2017 05:57am)
The USA didn't pull out because of an unfair distribution of costs; they pulled out because they don't want the cost at all. Present day economy is way too important. Earth's future is for our children and grandchildren to worry about.




Might want to keep an eye on the UN as well. There are 193 countries that are member of the UN, and the US is paying 22% of the UN's upkeep.
I and quite a few congressmen feel this is not a smart move for the US.

This and other things like the trade agreements we were involved in, seriously add to the US deficit.
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Dec 13 2017 02:21pm
Quote (Leevee @ Dec 13 2017 06:57am)
The USA didn't pull out because of an unfair distribution of costs; they pulled out because they don't want the cost at all. Present day economy is way too important. Earth's future is for our children and grandchildren to worry about.



The Paris agreement doesnt help the climate in a statistically relevant way
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#156
Dec 15 2017 03:36am
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The Paris agreement doesnt help the climate in a statistically relevant way


With a complete lack of understanding of statistics, it is fairly difficult to see statistical relevance in anything.
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#157
Dec 15 2017 06:08am
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With a complete lack of understanding of statistics, it is fairly difficult to see statistical relevance in anything.


statistical significance is not the same as substantial relevance. with a large enough sample size, you can prove any effect, no matter how miniscule and irrelevant, to be significant.
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#158
Dec 15 2017 10:06am
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statistical significance is not the same as substantial relevance. with a large enough sample size, you can prove any effect, no matter how miniscule and irrelevant, to be significant.


thats what i wanted to post

unfortunately way too few people actually have the mathematical background to realise how much you can mess around with statistics to "prove" your point
lets remember the infamous swedish crime poll of everyones favorite frenchie here :lol:
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#159
Dec 15 2017 07:00pm
I wish for all of the EU will benefit from the liberal trade policies that the European Union brings with it.
Furthermore I wish that the advantages that inter-European companionship brings will help to serve the strength of our great continent in its' fight for freedom all around the world.

France's Emmanuel Macron sets a great example for all of Europe to follow. :)

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Dec 15 2017 07:42pm
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I wish for all of the EU will benefit from the liberal trade policies that the European Union brings with it.
Furthermore I wish that the advantages that inter-European companionship brings will help to serve the strength of our great continent in its' fight for freedom all around the world.

France's Emmanuel Macron sets a great example for all of Europe to follow. :)





no, seriously, what has Macron done so far to set "a great example"? all he did was hold some eloquent and aesthetic speeches which boil down to "I want/need more German money to solve the French problems, so that I dont have to pursue painful reforms which end with my head on a pitchfork".

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