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Sep 11 2015 11:24am
Quote (CarsV @ Sep 11 2015 10:19am)
Man it's like you're deliberately dodging the point, especially the way you insist on bringing up America and racism.


Is the point you're attempting to elude to that the same one that Widow initially had? (that the refugees appear to well off to be refugees)

Because if so i already addressed it, boat owners were charging fortunes to get a place on a shitty rubber raft that may not even make it to europe. So the huddled masses simply can not afford to travel. Syria has lost half of its population, it would likely lose much closer to 100% of it population except for combatants if an evacuation was offered. The fact that they are carrying cell phones and t-shirts is because of they had enough money to get on a raft while those who didnt have cell phones couldnt.
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Sep 11 2015 11:32am
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Is the point you're attempting to elude to that the same one that Widow initially had? (that the refugees appear to well off to be refugees)

Because if so i already addressed it, boat owners were charging fortunes to get a place on a shitty rubber raft that may not even make it to europe. So the huddled masses simply can not afford to travel. Syria has lost half of its population, it would likely lose much closer to 100% of it population except for combatants if an evacuation was offered. The fact that they are carrying cell phones and t-shirts is because of they had enough money to get on a raft while those who didnt have cell phones couldnt.


Nope.

My point is that these people Are. Not. Refugees. They're illegal immigrants. This out pour of grief and empathy is so misplaced, so misguided, and so manipulated by the media.

Refugees are disheveled people who will accept any assistance and help they can get; they'll flee to any safe zone they can. These so-called media-labeled "refugees" are very picky about where they're choosing to flee. Are all of them exploiting soft Europe and fleeing to the welfare socialist states? No. But that's who I'm addressing, these supposed "refugees" FORCING their way into European countries. Sorry pal, but that's not refugees-like, that fits the bill of economic migrants bordering on passive invaders. They could flee to many other countries who'll grant them refugee haven. But no, they're after those soft, succulent European pastures because that's where the money is. Notice how no European leaders have had a referendum on this. The media keeps peddling their lefty bullshit, but if you look online there's a very different story. Have a referendum asking "Do you want more illegal immigrants to come to Germany or the UK?". In fact, try it with any country that's currently experiencing influxes of "refugees".



It's like this ^ simple concept fails to click with people. I have never seen people so gamed and played by the media. It's reasons such as this that I increasingly view the mainstream media as the true enemy. Their ability to manipulate, influence, and control information and public opinion is shockingly effective and frightening.

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Sep 11 2015 03:23pm
Quote (CarsV @ Sep 11 2015 08:13am)
Sooooooo everything is whitey's fault. Again. Gotcha.

http://i49.tinypic.com/sy44zq.jpg


It appears reading is too difficult for you since you have to resort to gifs.

The fact of the matter is the British and French literally drew a straight line on a map using a ruler to divide up the Middle East. They specifically said at the time Arabs were better off as subjects of European colonies than they were as independent nations.

I don't understand why that's so difficult to understand. The events leading up to the creation of ISIS can easily be traced over the past 70 years.
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Sep 11 2015 09:33pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Sep 11 2015 08:26am)
There's no other way to put this:

Read a fucking book instead of watching YouTube videos.

The entire situation in the Middle East, especially in Syria, Iraq, and Palestine, is the direct result of European colonialism post-WWI where they carved up the Ottoman Empire and German holdings with complete disregard for ethnic, language, and religious relations.

Then, after WWII, they finally went "Oh, sorry! You can have your countries back now that we're done raping them. Hope you don't mind us keeping the oil and minerals we stole. BTW here's our Jews because we don't want them here."

If anything, this is a long time coming. Europe owes a great deal of reparations and meddling from the shit they pulled from 1911 to 1948. At which point, to be fair, the U.S. and soviets began using the region to fight proxy wars.

It's not the "white liberal guilt" you're claiming. The issue has always been White Man's Burden, the negative effect it's had on the world, and getting rid of it. It's the entire reason for radical extremist, Arab nationalism.


A+ and qft

I love when personal responsibility is reframed to white guilt so that they can feel okay about avoiding it.

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Sep 12 2015 03:25am
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A+ and qft

I love when personal responsibility is reframed to white guilt so that they can feel okay about avoiding it.


It's pretty shit that the UK is so negligent on what they owe the world.
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Sep 12 2015 03:45am
...the 10,000 Syrian refugees America is going to take will be vetted for two years before they are allowed in to make certain none of them are ISIS supporters .
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Sep 12 2015 03:46am
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It's pretty shit that the UK is so negligent on what they owe the world.


They owe the world nothing.
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Sep 12 2015 04:17am
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They owe the world nothing.


Typical right-wing nutter running away from responsibility.
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Sep 12 2015 04:22am
Quote (Neptunus @ Sep 12 2015 04:17am)
Typical right-wing nutter running away from responsibility.


What am I responsible for, shitheel?
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Sep 12 2015 04:26am
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What am I responsible for, shitheel?


Your high quality of life built at the expense of the less fortunate.

Think of the big picture, and not of your mom's basement.

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