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Feb 10 2015 02:58pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 10 2015 03:55pm)
If there is no reason to oppose it, why would it not be mandatory? I thought they followed logically from one to the other.

Either you prevent disease at no cost to anyone, or you allow disease to flourish at a real cost to individuals and society on the whole. Cambo's religion is some vague, abstract, and poorly defined notion of freedom, but I don't think that's an excuse to let people die.


If there is no reason to oppose eating broccoli, why would it not be mandatory?

In nay case the premise is false. There are reasons to oppose vaccines, and there is a cost to people.
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Feb 10 2015 02:59pm
I like to picture the inside of Cambo's head as a miniature strawman production line.
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I like to picture the inside of Cambo's head as a miniature strawman production line.


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Feb 10 2015 03:01pm
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I like to picture the inside of Cambo's head as a miniature strawman production line.


You are free to think what you want. You are still a vapid little bitch who has failed to address my supposed strawman and instead wished me physical harm.

The point I made was evident. Something that is deemed good or healthy by others does not necessarily mean it should be mandatory for everyone.

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Feb 10 2015 03:11pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 10 2015 03:58pm)
If there is no reason to oppose eating broccoli, why would it not be mandatory?



It's not mandatory because the opposition of person A regarding broccoli consumption will not cause injury to person B who is unable to consume broccoli for xyz reason.

Unlike the opposition of person A regarding vaccines which can result in injury to person B.
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Feb 10 2015 03:13pm
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You are free to think what you want. You are still a vapid little bitch who has failed to address my supposed strawman and instead wished me physical harm.

The point I made was evident. Something that is deemed good or healthy by others does not necessarily mean it should be mandatory for everyone.


tbh i don't think anyone in this sf would wish physical harm upon you, lets not take things personal shall we?
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Feb 10 2015 03:22pm
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It's not mandatory because the opposition of person A regarding broccoli consumption will not cause injury to person B who is unable to consume broccoli for xyz reason.

Unlike the opposition of person A regarding vaccines which can result in injury to person B.

Person A is not causing harm to person B in a completely overwhelming majority of cases.

I can come up with a very very long list of activities and actions that can possibly result in injury to someone else. Surely you wouldn't also ban those.
I can also come up with a long list of potential cautionary measures that could be taken to prevent possible harm to others. Surely not all of them should be mandated.
That alternate criteria will not suffice either.


Actually not eating healthy can lead to compromised immune systems and sickness which is far more likely to negatively effect others than a rare vaccine opt out.

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tbh i don't think anyone in this sf would wish physical harm upon you, lets not take things personal shall we?

He already did.
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Feb 10 2015 03:25pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 10 2015 04:22pm)
Actually not eating healthy can lead to compromised immune systems and sickness which is far more likely to negatively effect others than a rare vaccine opt out.


This is a good point, I wonder if anyone here would support mandated healthy diets.
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Feb 10 2015 03:27pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 10 2015 04:22pm)
Person A is not causing harm to person B in a completely overwhelming majority of cases.

I can come up with a very very long list of activities and actions that can possibly result in injury to someone else. Surely you wouldn't also ban those.
I can also come up with a long list of potential cautionary measures that could be taken to prevent possible harm to others. Surely not all of them should be mandated.
That alternate criteria will not suffice either.


Actually not eating healthy can lead to compromised immune systems and sickness which is far more likely to negatively effect others than a rare vaccine opt out.


He already did.


So your argument now is cannot legislate them all, so legislate none
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Feb 10 2015 03:29pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 10 2015 04:25pm)
This is a good point, I wonder if anyone here would support mandated healthy diets.


i'd be in favour of tax credits to promote healthier life styles, particularly one for using the gym - with the appropriate set of checks in place to make sure you're eating healthy and staying fit

on a side note, $4.99 medium size pepperoni pizza should be illegal :/

This post was edited by duffman316 on Feb 10 2015 03:30pm
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