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Sep 18 2014 06:32pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 18 2014 07:29pm)
Raised to be a whiny, gimme everything I think I deserve generation is 20x better eh?


This generation is more than that. You don't get anywhere generalizing an entire group.

The only thing that is scary is the rising poverty rates and income gap compared to previous times in the past. And the growing concern that the coming generations may not be able to adapt to the changing marketplace.

Also if you think spanking children somehow reduces the effects of what you talk about. How do you explain the problems in the south with the black population and they spank their kids way more often than others.

If you wanted to go down that route, you should probably mention things that have a direct casual link to kids growing up to exhibit bad behavior. Which is growing up in poor conditions, being educated by uneducated parents and etc.

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Sep 18 2014 06:34pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 18 2014 08:29pm)
Raised to be a whiny, gimme everything I think I deserve generation is 20x better eh?


LOL you just described the baby boomers in a nutshell.

I guess you are getting old enough to start complaining about "kids these days" though so...

Also funny that you (incorrectly) think that the young generations are entitled stems EXCLUSIVELY from the fact that corporal punishment is used less often. Was your brain on when you typed that?

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The only thing that is scary is the rising poverty rates and income gap compared to previous times in the past. And the growing concern that the coming generations may not be able to adapt to the changing marketplace.


The coming generations are the ones MOST READILY ABLE to the changing marketplace (largely becoming technology-centric).

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And I also believe millions,  like myself, are unaffected and better off cause of it.


That stockholm syndrome...
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Sep 18 2014 06:46pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 18 2014 08:00pm)
Here's what I'd like to know: how is it that so much literature on corporal punishment says it's "bad" for kids when everyone will tell you kids are worse people these days than they used to be?



I was spanked as a child. I deserved it. My most poignant memory of being spanked isn't of some trauma, it was how very bad I felt that I had put my mother in the position of having given herself a blister on her hand administering discipline.


the kind of literature you get when you have young kids, im pretty sure there is a consensus about that. Me too i was spanked but what i remember is more like a joke, we were faking crying and start laughing right after parents were gone (and they knew it).

I see you have close to same age than me, spanking was normal when we were young, education has evolute a lot since then, my parents did not have access to such information we have today.

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Sep 18 2014 06:50pm
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Sep 18 2014 07:32pm)
This generation is more than that. You don't get anywhere generalizing an entire group.

The only thing that is scary is the rising poverty rates and income gap compared to previous times in the past. And the growing concern that the coming generations may not be able to adapt to the changing marketplace.

Also if you think spanking children somehow reduces the effects of what you talk about. How do you explain the problems in the south with the black population and they spank their kids way more often than others.

If you wanted to go down that route, you should probably mention things that have a direct casual link to kids growing up to exhibit bad behavior. Which is growing up in poor conditions, being educated by uneducated parents and etc.


Problems in the South? You mean like the narrower achievement gap?

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LOL you just described the baby boomers in a nutshell.

I guess you are getting old enough to start complaining about "kids these days" though so...

Also funny that you (incorrectly) think that the young generations are entitled stems EXCLUSIVELY from the fact that corporal punishment is used less often. Was your brain on when you typed that?


You might like to think that, but they paid into SS/Medicare all their lives. Wanting to cash in on it isn't "gimme everything I think I deserve." But Obamaphones are. So is section 8. And 1/6 of the country on food stamps. And federal student loans. And progressive taxation. All borne from a mentality that doesn't note that taking from someone in any other circumstance is called theft. Why did I get my ass whooped as a kid? Because I stole.

Congrats on an easier game this week. I meant to bench White for Williams. Guess I have to beat you with a man down now.
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Sep 18 2014 06:56pm
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Problems in the South? You mean like the narrower achievement gap?



You might like to think that, but they paid into SS/Medicare all their lives. Wanting to cash in on it isn't "gimme everything I think I deserve." But Obamaphones are. So is section 8. And 1/6 of the country on food stamps. And federal student loans. And progressive taxation. All borne from a mentality that doesn't note that taking from someone in any other circumstance is called theft. Why did I get my ass whooped as a kid? Because I stole.

Congrats on an easier game this week. I meant to bench White for Williams. Guess I have to beat you with a man down now.


So lack of corporal punishment is the reason for more liberal social policy, gotcha. Why then do all the blacks in the south who have far higher rates of corporal punishment vote Democrat then, eh?

Oh damn, sorry about Roddy :P gl
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Sep 18 2014 07:25pm
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So lack of corporal punishment is the reason for more liberal social policy, gotcha. Why then do all the blacks in the south who have far higher rates of corporal punishment vote Democrat then, eh?

Oh damn, sorry about Roddy :P gl


Cuz virtually all blacks vote Donkey?
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Cuz virtually all blacks vote Donkey?


Yes.

And blacks also have a higher rate of using corporal punishment.



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You might like to think that, but they paid into SS/Medicare all their lives. Wanting to cash in on it isn't "gimme everything I think I deserve." But Obamaphones are. So is section 8. And 1/6 of the country on food stamps. And federal student loans. And progressive taxation. All borne from a mentality that doesn't note that taking from someone in any other circumstance is called theft. Why did I get my ass whooped as a kid? Because I stole.


This principle leaves very little room for discussion because this nation was brought up on things funded by public funds that were extracted via "theft" -- banking insurance, postal services, the military, etc. -- many of which I do not personally believe we should fund, or at least not to the extent that we do (mainly the military) but I pony up like everybody else and can say it has not hurt my work ethic at all. I consider our/my generation as hard working or harder working than any generation before it, easily.

EDIT -- I feel we've also come to a point in productivity where certain things like education funding are possible without really sacrificing all too much (plus this does have an observable return) and should consider ourselves lucky for the opportunity. Which would you prefer, a system where everybody can get educated, more often than not beyond high school as well, or a system where educated is reserved for the social elites and most people are seriously handicapped as a result of that deprivation?

The first may require heavier taxation but I'm for it.


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Sep 19 2014 11:04am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 18 2014 07:50pm)
You might like to think that, but they paid into SS/Medicare all their lives. Wanting to cash in on it isn't "gimme everything I think I deserve." But Obamaphones are. So is section 8. And 1/6 of the country on food stamps. And federal student loans. And progressive taxation. All borne from a mentality that doesn't note that taking from someone in any other circumstance is called theft. Why did I get my ass whooped as a kid? Because I stole.


never understood how the anti-tax nonsense makes sense to libertarians, thank god you people have no power ~ your selfishness would destroy a country within a few decades

also social security looks like a pyramid scheme

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