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Jesus said, “those who think they are closest to God are the farthest away.”

The people who think they are dedicating their life to God are actually doing the exact opposite. What could be more ironic or tragic? The devil is just as sneaky and sly as the Bible says. People know that the Bible contains the truth, but not much else. The devil/mind has fooled just about everyone until now. It is the Semitic religions, Jews, Christians and Muslims, that are farthest from the truth, but the farthest away are the closest when they see the truth.

Jesus said, “If we seek, we shall find.”

No one is seeking. Jesus would not have said “if we seek we will find” unless we have to seek to find. You need to do what Jesus says to follow Jesus: seek. Most devout religious people are not seeking the truth, because they think they already know it. You have to know you do not know to seek.

He would not have said we have to seek if we did not need to do it. Jesus is saying, what people now know is not all there is to know, that there is something new to know (God). Christians think they know all there is to know, so they are not looking. They are just ignoring what Jesus is telling them to do, yet they are still calling themselves Christians and saying that they believe in the Bible.

No one in a position of power in traditional religions has really been looking for the truth; they have not been seeking as Jesus told them to do. How can you call yourself a Christian if you do not do what Christ tells you to do? They have to stop thinking they know it and telling other people they know it and start really seeking, or it will cost them their immortal souls.

The next best thing to finding God/life is looking for God/life.

When you start looking for truth, you start finding it just as Jesus said. New revelations of the truth will just start coming to you from out of the air (the Holy Spirit/collective unconscious). That is where the new revelations in this book came from. The new revelations allow you to connect the dots and put the puzzle together into a complete picture.

Seeking never ends: You can know the truth completely, but never know the life completely. It is infinite, and to know it the best it can be known is achieved by constantly looking deeper, by constantly seeking it, being open to more of it.

Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 24 2012 02:28pm)

You don't get it.
First of all, this thread is NOT about me... but I will answer anyway because I have some extra time.
If you actually read that quote you should understand what we need to change is our minds.
I changed my mind already, once I realized I am more than my mind (and I do NOT know the truth).
My mind is still changing : still opening itself step by step, but the truth is still the truth so my mind will not change about this subject (or well actually it will become more aware of things I am posting here).
Ine the other hand, you guys do not want to change your minds, it seems you are scared to accept the lies your are living in. I am ok with that, I understand perfectly and I do not judge anyone, but I will not discuss about the truth/reality/life in this thread.
That is not subject to debate.
You can think what you want, but the truth/reality and the way physical life basically work will never change.
If you stop breathing today, or if you stop breathing next year your brain will still stop working and your current body will die... This is true for everybody and not subject to debate.
Now if you really want to discuss, I am open (I said it more than once) --> PM ME.
Also, I will tell it one more time : the truth contest is OPEN, you are free to submit your entry if you can explain the truth of life and death better that The Present, and The Present (with religion)... I will be really happy and it will be a big step in evolution of mankind if you do that !
This thread is about sharing knowledge about the truth of life and death (things true for everyone). You guys do not share anything but judgements.
This thread is about unity/agreement. You guys just try to divide/argue.

So even if I have extra time, I will not repeat myself much more... I already said what I just wrote in original post or previous threads about The Present (with religion).
Just to be clear I do not give a shit about what your opinions about me, and your damn judgements about the truth.
I answered this just because I do not have much to do tonight.



from pages 107-108 of "The Present (with religion)" at http://www.truthcontest.com/

Quote (Impose @ Nov 24 2012 04:43pm)

When was a biological fact ever a subject for debate among anyone here?

Everyone here knows when you die your body decays

What the hell are you even trying to argue. You make no fuckin sense

Quote (Impose @ 24 Nov 2012 23:43)

When was a biological fact ever a subject for debate among anyone here?

Everyone here knows when you die your body decays

What the hell are you even trying to argue. You make no fuckin sense

Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 24 2012 03:53pm)

you can check it with your mind (6th sense) using logic and reason.

Quote (Azrad @ 25 Nov 2012 00:00)

lets check your 6th sense

'If Rome is the capitol of Canada, then Berlin is the capitol of Florida" --- is this True or False?

Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 24 2012 04:37pm)

I do not want to talk to you, but I like to keep this thread on top so I will answer anyway :
You gotta be stupid, so I will tell it one more time so you may begin to understand : it is NOT about me, it is NOT about my 6th sense.
And as far as I know Rome is not the capitol of Canada but Italy and I don't even know what is the capitol of Florida, but Berlin is the capitol of Germany, so it is false.
It is false for everyone no matter what you think. If we want to be able to agree about geography, we must have the same geographic books... There is nothing to debate about once more.

Quote (Azrad @ 25 Nov 2012 00:57)

logic fail, my statement was true.

Quote (mike14e @ 25 Nov 2012 00:34)

Ok eti, I'll bring up more questions that you will likely leave unanswered.
1. What is the definition of life and living? What is life?
2. What is the defintion of death?
3. While the truth may be constant and unchanging, who is to say your or the author's understanding of it is correct? How can you be sure that you "know" what the truth is? In other words: How do you recognize what you know as the truth? How do you come to recognize untruths (or false truths, inposters, etc). (Open your mind is not an adequate answer)
4. How do you come to "know" something; how do you acquire/come to knowledge? (Open your mind is not an adequate answer)


Also, truth and reality are two separate concepts. Truth pertains to knowledge or knowing, whereas reality pertains to the nature of what-is, the metaphysical. You cannot consolidate the two, doing so is a common philosophical mistake.

By not keeping things open for debate, you prevent the chance to further understand things. The "truth", if there is an objective and absolute universal truth as you are saying (based on The present), then it will stand up and survive scrutinization and inquiry.