Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 03:10pm)

The problem is that we can loose only once, they just seem to loose again and again because we know that once we loose we are doomed.
They will kill the children, they will rape the women and then kill them, they won't let us survive.
We all know it and they don't hide it so why would we take any other action against them? we will do what ever it takes to survive.

The only one who gambles their futures are the Arabs, cause you see if we fall they all fall with us.
once they relize that everything will be fine.

Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 03:14pm)

I agree with you.
And now, the land that my family owns for more than 70 years is not my - where should I go?
And if you think i shouldn't go - than my argument makes sense ?

Also, i'm waiting for an answer on how Israel can soak all those refugees in.

Quote (ZingerSupreme @ Mar 13 2012 01:22pm)

I am not sure what you mean by how. What is the obstacle? Security?

Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 08:14am)

I agree with you.
And now, the land that my family owns for more than 70 years is not my - where should I go?
And if you think i shouldn't go - than my argument makes sense ?

Also, i'm waiting for an answer on how Israel can soak all those refugees in.

Quote (ZingerSupreme @ 13 Mar 2012 15:22)

I don't speak for all Arabs obviously.
But personally I don't want you to go.
However I want you to share the land with the Arab inhabitants, not kick them out.
This is my personal opinion.

I am not sure what you mean by how. What is the obstacle? Security?

Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 08:32am)

Zinger on 1999 Barak offered Arafat everything
he was willing to do peace and give what ever it takes, arafat refused.
So how can you say we didn't want to make peace.

The fact we can only loose once is just an example of what drives us and therefore you can't win a war against us we are always facing the wall from the other direction so we will fight with the last breath.

I can't stop defending cause you "think" they won't murder or kill anyone and what regime will they install? secular or a religious one.
for how they will fall with us just use your imagination.

Israel is indeed gambling.

See another point you failed to relize is that you can not come to an agreement with a Arab regime cause they are unstable.
we made peace with Egypt on 1979 and now they call us enemies again after we gave back Sinai.
So we will give Syria the Golan area and after 20 years the regime will fall and they gonna fight us again, same for Lebanon we can make agreement about the refugee's but on the first opprotunity you'll have you will strike us.

And therefore there will never be peace, Israel can only react to whats going on around it.
Israel can not change anything its only the regimes around it that can really do something and padel for peace.




You are not speaking for all Arabs and its a shame cause with a person like you we could actually head somewhere.
the majority just want us out.

We are sharing the land with almost 2 million Arabs, we simply can not soak more.

Quote (Skinned @ 13 Mar 2012 15:33)

Sharing would imply that they are part of the political process.  That is completely incorrect.

Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 08:35am)

What?? are you serious?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List%5Fof%5FArab%5Fmembers%5Fof%5Fthe%5FKnesset
Have fun keep lying to yourself.

Quote (Skinned @ 13 Mar 2012 15:36)

I only see a couple non-Druze on the list.
Would that be proportionate to the population of Arabs living in Israel by chance?

Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 08:38am)

Couple of none druze? there were only 5 druze in the knesset of Israel 2 christians and the rest are Muslim Arabs...
lol..

Edit:
Or secular Arabs sorry.

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