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May 23 2011 12:41pm
Quote (SeaBas @ 23 May 2011 13:39)
But 'judging temperature' is not even an issue here. People die and have died when they don't wear protective clothing in space. Or is death not accurate either?


Red herring. This isn't about temperature. I already answered with a temperature related circular logic analogy. Please read page 1 and 2 where I outline the facts regarding this issue. Please correct me where I'm wrong, so that I can learn from the issues where I am wrong (post #14). Thank you!
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May 23 2011 12:43pm
Quote (SeaBas @ 23 May 2011 11:39)
But 'judging temperature' is not even an issue here. People die when they don't wear protective clothing in space. Or is death not accurate either?


ill translate what he trying to say
njag: my logic >yours
you: oh? how so?
njag: because i said so
you: *gives relevant proof*
njag: that does not apply to my logic, therefore you cannot know its not wrong.
you: wtf?
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May 23 2011 12:45pm
Quote (Axel_XII @ May 23 2011 02:43pm)
ill translate what he trying to say
njag: my logic >yours
you: oh? how so?
njag: because i said so
you: *gives relevant proof*
njag: that does not apply to my logic, therefore you cannot know its not wrong.
you: wtf?


You know, it's funny, because I was going to say the same thing about Njag. Except that it's you playing Njags part, and he's the smart one ;) Funny how that works right?

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Also, to go to the original topic... The bible talks about dinosaurs. Behemoth, Leviathan...etc etc. The term dinosaur wasn't even coined until 1800's. I believe in a young earth. Around 10000 years old. Plain and simple, people say "Oh, it's not possible for Dinosaurs to have lived with man" but I like to differ. Why isn't it possible? Because you assume dinosaurs would have destroyed man? Man, who has managed to kill every creature it's ever found and make it into something tasty and edible? :drool:

This post was edited by OgreDan on May 23 2011 12:48pm
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May 23 2011 12:46pm
Quote (njaguar @ May 23 2011 06:41pm)
Red herring. This isn't about temperature. Please read page 1 and 2 where I outline the facts regarding this issue. Please correct me where I'm wrong, so that I can learn from the issues where I am wrong. Thank you!


Haha Sorry man, but this just says it all. You know exactly what I'm talking about with the example of temperature, and you were even talking about it until my logic was just too obvious. -_-

When every single piece of evidence in the world regarding the age of our planet and the first life forms, from tons of different sources, from different countries and individuals/organizations points in one direction, has pointed in the same direction for hundreds of years, why not believe it? Were all of those scientific reports and pieces of evidence errors in judgements?

Quote (OgreDan @ May 23 2011 06:45pm)
You know, it's funny, because I was going to say the same thing about Njag. Except that it's you playing Njags part, and he's the smart one ;) Funny how that works right?


Please do this, I'm interested in seeing the result.

This post was edited by SeaBas on May 23 2011 12:47pm
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May 23 2011 12:46pm
were we not all supposed to die a few days ago??



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May 23 2011 12:48pm
Quote (Kiba44 @ May 23 2011 01:46pm)
were we not all supposed to die a few days ago??

http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834520b4b69e201543276dca2970c-320wi


Nah. Guy was just a false prophet.
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May 23 2011 12:49pm
Quote (Kiba44 @ 23 May 2011 11:46)
were we not all supposed to die a few days ago??

http://www.iisretard.com/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/967a9_epic-win-photos-rapture-hours-win.jpg


People that don't read the Bible and say when the world is going to end based on the Bible are wrong.
I don't know the entire story because I didn't really care for it, it was all pretty silly.

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May 23 2011 12:50pm
Quote (SeaBas @ May 23 2011 02:46pm)
Haha Sorry man, but this just says it all. You know exactly what I'm talking about with the example of temperature, and you were even talking about it until my logic was just too obvious. -_-

When every single piece of evidence in the world regarding the age of our planet and the first life forms, from tons of different sources, from different countries and individuals/organizations points in one direction, has pointed in the same direction for hundreds of years, why not believe it? Were all of those scientific reports and pieces of evidence errors in judgements?



Please do this, I'm interested in seeing the result.


Look, I've watched Njag, time after time, provide logic and evidence in PaRD. Many people like to ignore it because they have a preconceived notion of what things are, and people don't like being proved wrong. Science has backed up the bible in many cases. Do you believe in Noahs Flood?
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May 23 2011 12:51pm
Quote (SeaBas @ 23 May 2011 13:46)
Haha Sorry man, but this just says it all. You know exactly what I'm talking about with the example of temperature, and you were even talking about it until my logic was just too obvious. -_-

When every single piece of evidence in the world regarding the age of our planet and the first life forms, from tons of different sources, from different countries and individuals/organizations points in one direction, has pointed in the same direction for hundreds of years, why not believe it? Were all of those scientific reports and pieces of evidence errors in judgements?


Read my edit. I answered it already with an analogy that fits your temperature example perfectly. Read post #14.

Quote (OgreDan @ 23 May 2011 13:45)
You know, it's funny, because I was going to say the same thing about Njag. Except that it's you playing Njags part, and he's the smart one ;) Funny how that works right?


I wonder how many times I've pointed people to post #14 now, and yet they continually result to red herrings, ad hominem attacks, etc.

Oh well.. Anyway, I hope you guys seriously look at what I'm saying here. I'd love for this aspect of science to be corrected, so that this inherent pre-bias will be resolved, and we can move forwards towards getting more accurate dates on things, to either back up the current estimates, or refute them. (I doubt that these posts will make any difference, but hopefully it has illuminated a glaring issue with this specific issue.)

I'm off the PaRD for now, thanks guys, was a fun as always. :)
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May 23 2011 12:53pm
Quote (OgreDan @ May 23 2011 06:50pm)
Look, I've watched Njag, time after time, provide logic and evidence in PaRD. Many people like to ignore it because they have a preconceived notion of what things are, and people don't like being proved wrong. Science has backed up the bible in many cases. Do you believe in Noahs Flood?


You're totally getting me wrong here. As I've said before, I'm not against religion or the bible or anything in that order. I just find the part that talks about the age of our planet and our species too unlikely to believe.

There is no proof whatsoever that says or even suggests our planet is that 'young'.
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