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Dec 5 2009 05:20pm
Quote (ChantDownBabylon @ Dec 5 2009 12:15pm)
Dude, no.


Very intelligent response, you've really outdone yourself on this post.

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I believe it myself. 

Lots of people are skeptics, but that doesn't mean that everything that sounds wacky is false.


Glad somebody can see this, if only for a second. This is the first step towards expanding your realm of thought and practicing open-mindness.
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Dec 5 2009 05:25pm
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Yes, but there's not going to be any kind of planetary alignment in 2012, tbh, so that part's sort of bunk.


I think you may be right, because as far as I understand it, there is going to be a galactic alignment.. Not sure where you heard about any "planetary alignment" from but it does seem to be spreading around. From what I understand,the Galactic Alignment is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator. This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes every 26000 years.

Quite a rare and remarkable moment in time. It may be what the ancients were trying to tell us about with their massive architecture and their symbolism.

I can't wait to witness it myself, from an astrologers perspective at least, aside from all of the hype about what may or may not occur. People want to say that your DNA might change with the purest form of photon energy available from the center of the galaxy, in which case we will evolve or something, and I'm just excited to be alive at this junction of the universe. I think we are all fortunate to have a chance at being alive for it.

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Consciousness is the mechanism, or force you are searching for, at least in my opinion and many others also.


Hmm is that electromagnetic, gravitational, nuclear strong, or nuclear weak force? Or better yet how many Newtons does this force exert? Please show your work.

edited: For example, now many Newtons of force are exerted between your consciousnesss and say someone 10 meters away. Again, please show your work.

This post was edited by Azrad on Dec 5 2009 05:39pm
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Dec 5 2009 05:51pm
How about we agree to stop talking about it until the end of 2012.

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How about we agree to stop talking about it until the end of 2012.


I'll agree to that, but I doubt the nutters will be able to keep their traps shut; but I'll willing to be proven wrong. Let's see, I bet they can't go 24 hours.

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Hmm is that electromagnetic, gravitational, nuclear strong, or nuclear weak force? Or better yet how many Newtons does this force exert? Please show your work.

edited: For example, now many Newtons of force are exerted between your consciousnesss and say someone 10 meters away. Again, please show your work.


Pretty funny for a nutter.
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Very intelligent response, you've really outdone yourself on this post.


Guild: Zeitgeist

You cant talk about intelligence, mate.
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Quote (ChantDownBabylon @ Dec 7 2009 04:50am)
Guild: Zeitgeist

You cant talk about intelligence, mate.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Quote (Azrad @ Dec 5 2009 06:35pm)
Hmm is that electromagnetic, gravitational, nuclear strong, or nuclear weak force? Or better yet how many Newtons does this force exert? Please show your work.

edited: For example, now many Newtons of force are exerted between your consciousnesss and say someone 10 meters away. Again, please show your work.


“The DNA Phantom Effect: Direct Measurement of a New Field in the Vacuum Substructure”
http://www.twm.co.nz/DNAPhantom.htm

Also, one of the most brilliant minds of our time and a personal favorite of mine once said:

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As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear-headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.


Gregg Braden: Talking about electric and magnetic fields and how they relate to the heart, the brain, and global consciousness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRQeIsfQtE4

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Max Planck was a great man, but he was a pariah (along with Einstein) by the time he was credited with this quote (1944). Don't get me wrong though, we really shouldn't be critical of him, just because he weighted in on ultimately the wrong side of the issue. The logical arguments of Planck and Einstein were powerful, and very well thought out; the true horror was that they were wrong anyway. He died shortly before Tomonaga, Schwinger, and Feynman completed the quantum electro-dynamics project ("the jewel of physics") solidifying our modern understanding of interactions between electrons and light (for which they jointly received the Nobel Prize), so we will never know his response to them.

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http://www.twm.co.nz/DNAPhantom.htm


Vladimir Poponin is a Russian "doctor" and works with "biophotons". He apparently works for the Institute of HeartMath currently (listed by www.quackwatch.com) as a "Questionable Organization". Do you have anything that isn't listed by QuackWatch (I'm just kidding, well kind of...)?
Quote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophoton)

Biophotons were employed by the Stalin regime to diagnose cancer, and their discoverer, Alexander Gurwitsch was awarded the Stalin Prize, though the method has not been tested in the west. However, more recently there have been claims that, by "harnessing the energy of biophotons", supposed natural cures for cancer are possible. Commercial products and services based on these latter claims appear at present to be best regarded as base and baseless pseudo-science.




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Gregg Braden: Talking about electric and magnetic fields and how they relate to the heart, the brain, and global consciousness.

To be honest, I stopped the video at 7 seconds in when it said "Sedona, Arizona". Sedona is the Mecca of gobbledygook (can you see I'm struggling for different medifores?) pseudo-science. It might as well have said "pulled from a monkey's butt".

Also you still haven't answered my question:
Quote (Azrad @ Dec 5 2009 04:35pm)
now many Newtons of force are exerted between your consciousnesss and say someone 10 meters away. Again, please show your work.

I'm 100% serious about this question. When you say something exerts a force, you should be able to supply the force law, otherwise you sound like one of those Jedi weirdos. I mean for example how does this force diminish with distance? Is it an inverse square law? Surely if you believe this you should know this much about it at least, unless of course you are just "pulling it out of monkey's butt"...
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Dec 8 2009 03:08pm
Quackwatch is not the absolute truth either.
You use it to try and debunk all of the information posted, like it's the ultimate truth or something.

Guess again.

http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html

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Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases
At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases. Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.

The most damning testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.

During the course of his examination, Barrett also had to concede his ties to the AMA, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Food & Drug Administration (FDA).


This guy is rubbing shoulders with corrupted institutions, and you obviously don't care, as long as you think they are right, when they are claiming others are wrong so that you can be right in your eyes. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm not saying I am right, I'm just saying.

Also, we would be able to communicate better if you didn't try so hard to belittle me, which obviously has no effect on me other than it makes me not want to respond.
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