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Aug 6 2024 09:16am
Quote (Djunior @ Aug 6 2024 09:12am)
Not what I said bro. You carefully avoid the point I brought up (twice now) and that is xy chromosomes showing up in a test. A women doesn't have xy chromosomes.

Now address that or don't even reply, lol

Phelps has xy chromosomes and competes in the man's league where he belongs ;)

If the IOC has the athletes tested and shows that the athletes have xx chromosomes, I'm fine with them competing against other women


So does this eliminate the whole genital thing that people have been harping on forever? Does this individual not complete in female sports but now has to use the female bathroom?

Just let me get a lay of the land on this because Swyer syndrome has been around forever and I have never seen it brought up in a single post on this forum.
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Aug 6 2024 09:20am
Quote (Pyrotechx @ Aug 6 2024 05:16pm)
Did you... did you really post a link defending my argument? LOLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Falling for that bait, son.


I reiterate that a test showed xy chromosomes, I even posted the quote

Did you... did you fail to see I quoted that bit????

Why didn't the IOC have the athletes take a test to show beyond a doubt they're fit to compete?

How many doping tests do they run on a daily basis?

Can't run gender tests though, the athletes passport is enough (states they are a woman) :huh:

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Aug 6 2024 09:21am
Quote (Djunior @ Aug 6 2024 10:20am)
I reiterate that a test showed xy chromosomes, I even posted the quote

Did you... did you fail to see I quoted that bit????

Why didn't the IOC have the athletes take a test to show beyond a doubt they're fit to compete?

How many doping tests do they run on a daily basis?

Can't run gender tests though, the athletes passport is enough (states they are a woman) :huh:


Lol, alright dude, I'm done with you. If you're literally going to take Russian propaganda at face value, then there is no need to talk to you.

Hopefully you get your facts straight one day, it'll save you some headache and typing.

Good luck on your learning experience. You need it.
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Aug 6 2024 09:22am
Quote (SBD @ Aug 6 2024 05:16pm)
So does this eliminate the whole genital thing that people have been harping on forever? Does this individual not complete in female sports but now has to use the female bathroom?

Just let me get a lay of the land on this because Swyer syndrome has been around forever and I have never seen it brought up in a single post on this forum.


Dude I never mentioned a bathroom in this entire topic. Get over yourself.

This is about men's and women's leagues in sports and fair play, what is so hard to understand here.
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Aug 6 2024 09:23am
Quote (Pyrotechx @ Aug 6 2024 05:21pm)
Lol, alright dude, I'm done with you. If you're literally going to take Russian propaganda at face value, then there is no need to talk to you.

Hopefully you get your facts straight one day, it'll save you some headache and typing.

Good luck on your learning experience. You need it.


Accept defeat and bow out, lol

The IOC can't test the athletes to see if they're in fact men or women lmao

Sick woke society is sick
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Aug 6 2024 09:24am
Quote (SBD @ Aug 6 2024 11:08am)
See this is exactly what I mean. Oh hes just exceptionally built for his sport from his GENETIC advantage from birth, which isn't limited to just his limbs but also the chemical process (probably isn't the correct term) in that he generates far less lactic acid than a normal human.

Genetic advantages exist, giving a thumbs up to 1 and a thumbs down to another because you think its fits the woke agenda does note advance the argument in my opinion but only weakens it.

I am firmly in the slot you are what you are when you're born, that's your washroom, that's your sports league (if separate leagues exist), etc., etc. But I absolutely believe some will dominate because of their genetics and that's all this is.

But if they took performance enhancing drugs, sure toss them out, strip any winnings, etc. But if they didn't and they are just "well built" as you say, I don't see the issue.


I think this is a very odd road to go down when were talking about such a tiny, tiny, miniscule % of people that have this genetic condition, even smaller that have it and choose to do sports, even smaller that have it and are actually good at a sport. I think this one is let go and stick to the main arguments for men in female sports.



A tiny % that is now dominating a sport on the biggest stage. Even thought these hermaphroditic type people represent a very small %, they could absolutely dominate pretty much most female sports because of innate physical advantage tied to the sex genes. So in 4-8 years, why wouldn't every country seek out these people within their population and put them in women's sports?

Weight and height are also genetic advantages that are controlled for in sports, especially in combat sport with things like weight divisions. If chromosomes no longer matter, which have a proven advantage, then why should weight and height which are also simple genetic variations matter?

You want to create 3rd category and call it unisex sports/competitions, that's fine, but let's not completely push women out of competitive sports at the very top in their own spaces, no one benefits from that.
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Aug 6 2024 09:30am
Quote (Djunior @ Aug 6 2024 10:23am)
Accept defeat and bow out, lol

The IOC can't test the athletes to see if they're in fact men or women lmao

Sick woke society is sick


You spew russian disinfo. Any argument you thought you had is out the window. Any argument you think you will have is out the window. :rofl:

How do you define woke?

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A tiny % that is now dominating a sport on the biggest stage. Even thought these hermaphroditic type people represent a very small %, they could absolutely dominate pretty much most female sports because of innate physical advantage tied to the sex genes. So in 4-8 years, why wouldn't every country seek out these people within their population and put them in women's sports?

Weight and height are also genetic advantages that are controlled for in sports, especially in combat sport with things like weight divisions. If chromosomes no longer matter, which have a proven advantage, then why should weight and height which are also simple genetic variations matter?

You want to create 3rd category and call it unisex sports/competitions, that's fine, but let's not completely push women out of competitive sports at the very top in their own spaces, no one benefits from that.


So perhaps we ban anyone with any genetic advantage that allow them to dominate at said sport.
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Aug 6 2024 09:34am
Quote (SBD @ Aug 6 2024 11:31am)
So perhaps we ban anyone with any genetic advantage that allow them to dominate at said sport.


XY distinction is and has always been a big one, not comparable to two women with one having more lean muscle mass or longer legs because of ancestry. Not all gene variances are created equal.
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Aug 6 2024 09:36am
Quote (SBD @ Aug 6 2024 11:16am)
So does this eliminate the whole genital thing that people have been harping on forever? Does this individual not complete in female sports but now has to use the female bathroom?

Just let me get a lay of the land on this because Swyer syndrome has been around forever and I have never seen it brought up in a single post on this forum.


It’s not the first time a man has tried to compete against women sports, they themselves think it’s okay. But he doesn’t stand a chance in mens league.
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