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Nov 3 2023 12:23am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 2 2023 08:57pm)
So what do you think he should have done to protect the innocent people at the time?


NOT kill the guy. Are you all dumb?
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Nov 3 2023 12:57am
Problem with blood chokes is the second you let go the guy is back to full capacity in 3 seconds or so, keeping the hold in place or finding other means to control him was the only safe thing to do short of having other people frisk him for weapons.

Jordan Neely had been assaulting woman and getting more violent.
Oddly enough I met him when he was an mj impersonator and he was really nice, I may have even posted it here at the time when I was travelling the states.
it's a shame what happened to him but I do not think anyone should be charged with murder, Neely was the aggressor and there was children present.
I would have done the same thing given the same circumstances.

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 2 2023 11:23pm)
NOT kill the guy.


How does not killing the hobo protect other people though?


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Are you all dumb?


Dude, I am just trying to have a conversation with you. Why do you insult me?
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Nov 3 2023 12:51pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2023 02:36pm)
How does not killing the hobo protect other people though?




Dude, I am just trying to have a conversation with you. Why do you insult me?


Because you act like an idiot, its simple. You can protect people from the hobo by stopping him WITHOUT killing him. The killer was a Marine. He can EASILY hold him, call authorities and wait. Easily. Not a problem at all. The guy was absolutely no match for me. No need to fuckin kill him. Get real!
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 3 2023 12:51pm)
Because you act like an idiot, its simple. You can protect people from the hobo by stopping him WITHOUT killing him. The killer was a Marine. He can EASILY hold him, call authorities and wait. Easily. Not a problem at all. The guy was absolutely no match for me. No need to fuckin kill him. Get real!


Was protecting with a choke hold. Too bad the guy died, not really. His death probably saved the lives of an old lady or a child down the road.
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 3 2023 11:51am)
Because you act like an idiot, its simple. You can protect people from the hobo by stopping him WITHOUT killing him. The killer was a Marine. He can EASILY hold him, call authorities and wait. Easily. Not a problem at all. The guy was absolutely no match for me. No need to fuckin kill him. Get real!


Maybe you should stop insulting people just for asking you a question. You said that it was easy to hold the hobo without killing him, but maybe I didn't know that. Why did this make you so mad? And why are you so emotionally invested in this topic anyway? I don't get it. Did your dad used to be a hobo or what.

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Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 4 2023 01:01am)
Maybe you should stop insulting people just for asking you a question. You said that it was easy to hold the hobo without killing him, but maybe I didn't know that. Why did this make you so mad? And why are you so emotionally invested in this topic anyway? I don't get it. Did your dad used to be a hobo or what.


No, my dad isnt a hobo, but thx for asking.

I am invested in this because people openly celebrate a killer.
People's mental state these days is extremely concerning...
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 4 2023 05:51am)
Because you act like an idiot, its simple. You can protect people from the hobo by stopping him WITHOUT killing him. The killer was a Marine. He can EASILY hold him, call authorities and wait. Easily. Not a problem at all. The guy was absolutely no match for me. No need to fuckin kill him. Get real!

I am a martial arts expert and have trained Singaporian and us troops at Shoalhaven Bay in unarmed combat techniques, he could not let the choke go without the violent and unpredictable criminal immediately regaining conciousness, he had no idea if the guy was armed or not.
What would you do in this situation? I am just glad someone acted to prevent escalation, too often people just stand by or film.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 4 Nov 2023 10:23)
I am a martial arts expert and have trained Singaporian and us troops at Shoalhaven Bay in unarmed combat techniques, he could not let the choke go without the violent and unpredictable criminal immediately regaining conciousness, he had no idea if the guy was armed or not.
What would you do in this situation? I am just glad someone acted to prevent escalation, too often people just stand by or film.


mate, if you're actually an expert, you know that after going out like that you do NOT fully regain your bearings after just a few seconds. hell, i bet even most mma fans are aware of that without even having trained themselves. you also know that you can keep someone in a hold (video shows he basically had full back control for his rear naked choke) without applying the pressure required to interrupt blood flow to the brain - and just tighten the choke back up should they get rowdy again. in addition to that, there were two more grown man standing over the guy, restricting his arms, so the suggestion that he'd suddenly wake up and overpower all three of them is pretty absurd, especially considering he clearly was an untrained scrawn who wasn't wielding a weapon of anything...

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lol, how did this get to 16 pages.

The guy is clearly guilty of the charges.

He should have taken the plea deal.
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