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Jul 30 2025 11:43am
translation: when everyone is dead or the entire country is evacuated, then and only then will the war stop.

you give strength to everyone you've ever argued against, who have said all along that this was always the end game for Israel. there is no moderate path that is even acceptable, total destruction is the only goal.


That’s way off. The goal is to take out Hamas, not destroy Gaza. If they disarmed, surrendered, or chose peace, this would have ended a long time ago. Israel does not want endless war, it just wants the attacks to stop for good. No more rockets, mortars, massacres, or IEDs in buses or civilian areas. A complete stop, and it is over
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Jul 30 2025 01:28pm
That’s way off. The goal is to take out Hamas, not destroy Gaza. If they disarmed, surrendered, or chose peace, this would have ended a long time ago. Israel does not want endless war, it just wants the attacks to stop for good. No more rockets, mortars, massacres, or IEDs in buses or civilian areas. A complete stop, and it is over


But Gaza IS destroyed. And you have repeatedly used the expression hamapalestinains, inferring they are one and the same, ergo everyone, ergo whats wrong with his statement ?
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Jul 30 2025 02:16pm
That's the reality though, is it not?

The Palestinians appear to intend to fight to the death, just like the Japanese did. The difference is Japan was smart enough to surrender after the display of the overwhelming might of the nuclear bomb. The overwhelming might of the IDF against them still isn't enough, so I guess they'll all fight to the death, which means exactly what you said, the war only ends when the entire country is purged. The part you seem to struggle to understand is that this is the choice of the Palestinians and not Israel, who would love for them to surrender if only to minimize their losses of men.


That’s way off. The goal is to take out Hamas, not destroy Gaza. If they disarmed, surrendered, or chose peace, this would have ended a long time ago. Israel does not want endless war, it just wants the attacks to stop for good. No more rockets, mortars, massacres, or IEDs in buses or civilian areas. A complete stop, and it is over


the moment the war is over Bibi and his entire camp are likely headed to jail, the last thing they want is an end to this war. even if Hamas surrendered (not claiming they ever would) he'd have likely called it a trick and kept on bombing and displacing.

the goal is neither to take out hamas, nor to destroy gaza. the goal is a perpetual war so that the far right in the govt can avoid getting sent to prison. why did the army receive a stand down order again? oh yeah, there will be an investigation, once the war is over. because its obvious to everyone who isn't an idiot that you can easily do an investigation while the war is happening, you're fighting peasants who are almost all in makeshift camps.

many names, your people died. they died because bibi held the army back so that enough of them could get taken hostage and slaughtered that he could justify a war that would take years and many more of your countrymen's lives just to avoid getting removed from office. if you look in your heart you'll know its true.

But Gaza IS destroyed. And you have repeatedly used the expression hamapalestinains, inferring they are one and the same, ergo everyone, ergo whats wrong with his statement ?


every palestinian is a shroedinger's hamas, you dont know they're a terrorist until they're dead, of course..... /s

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the moment the war is over Bibi and his entire camp are likely headed to jail, the last thing they want is an end to this war. even if Hamas surrendered (not claiming they ever would) he'd have likely called it a trick and kept on bombing and displacing.

the goal is neither to take out hamas, nor to destroy gaza. the goal is a perpetual war so that the far right in the govt can avoid getting sent to prison. why did the army receive a stand down order again? oh yeah, there will be an investigation, once the war is over. because its obvious to everyone who isn't an idiot that you can easily do an investigation while the war is happening, you're fighting peasants who are almost all in makeshift camps.

many names, your people died. they died because bibi held the army back so that enough of them could get taken hostage and slaughtered that he could justify a war that would take years and many more of your countrymen's lives just to avoid getting removed from office. if you look in your heart you'll know its true.


I agree that it appears that Israel / Net and Yahoo's government is drawing out this war as long as possible, be that for any reason which could include prolonging the suffering of Palestinians, a hope to rescue as many still remaining hostages as possible, or prolong a state of war for N&Y's self preservation.

If this is true, Hamas could stick it to him by fully surrendering and releasing the hostages, as to end hostilities. Then Israel would be forced to rev up the war with Iran again. Israel could also deny that Hamas is surrending, but if they're able to get that message out to the media Israel would be in even deeper shit. I still think Israel has the power to end the war very quickly but they're refusing to do so, using the hostages as their justification, which does atleast have some credibility.
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Jul 30 2025 03:13pm
But Gaza IS destroyed. And you have repeatedly used the expression hamapalestinains, inferring they are one and the same, ergo everyone, ergo whats wrong with his statement ?


random human :"hey, theres a terrorist on that bus full of kids!"
IDF: " well, we better blow it up just to be sure"
random human: "dont you think you should be ....more careful??"
IDF: "trust us, we dont target civilians. we are the most moral army in the world - havent you heard?"
*bus blows up, 1 terrorist and 39 kids are dead*
random human : "........."
IDF: " we didnt target those children! the terrorist used them as human shields! they are not innocent! they would have grown up to be terrorists!!!"

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Jul 30 2025 05:07pm
You're naive and clueless if you think this has ANYTHING to do with hostages.
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Jul 30 2025 05:36pm
You're naive and clueless if you think this has ANYTHING to do with hostages.


Cool, what's your argument? I posit that they exist as a factor in this war
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Jul 30 2025 09:13pm
the moment the war is over Bibi and his entire camp are likely headed to jail, the last thing they want is an end to this war. even if Hamas surrendered (not claiming they ever would) he'd have likely called it a trick and kept on bombing and displacing.

the goal is neither to take out hamas, nor to destroy gaza. the goal is a perpetual war so that the far right in the govt can avoid getting sent to prison. why did the army receive a stand down order again? oh yeah, there will be an investigation, once the war is over. because its obvious to everyone who isn't an idiot that you can easily do an investigation while the war is happening, you're fighting peasants who are almost all in makeshift camps.

many names, your people died. they died because bibi held the army back so that enough of them could get taken hostage and slaughtered that he could justify a war that would take years and many more of your countrymen's lives just to avoid getting removed from office. if you look in your heart you'll know its true.



every palestinian is a shroedinger's hamas, you dont know they're a terrorist until they're dead, of course..... /s


I am not into conspiracies sorry.
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Jul 30 2025 10:03pm
B'tselem and Physicians for human rights israel interview claiming Israel is committing genocide.




"unequivocal conclusion that israel is taking coordinated deliberate action to destroy palestinian society in the gaza strip."
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