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Sep 24 2017 04:36pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 24 2017 04:35pm)
I've said it once and I'll say it again. If people in the media keep pushing a culture war about stupid shit like kneeling, Trump will WIN every time. Even moderates would rather side with Trump over Colin Kaepernick.


It's conservatives pushing the culture war. They LOVE to be offended.
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Sep 24 2017 04:36pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 24 Sep 2017 22:44)
i already said that I think it should be allowed, but that I dont condone it. a sports event is just not the right occasion for political protest.


The controversy is using a political tool to unite citizens with patriotic sentiments, as a political tool to protest against a part of patriotic sentiments keeping racial issues in mind.

Trump took it to the next political level.. Neglecting the chances sports give to unite.

I'm hoping the scenario described 1 min in the vid, is not going to happen:



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Sep 24 2017 04:37pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 24 2017 04:14pm)
i dont mind protests on the streets as long as they dont force their protest onto others by disrupting traffic or harassing passerbys. I dont mind organizing protest online, for example via twitter, facebook, reddit or whatever.


my general stance is: protesting is fine, but dont force your protest on others.
making a sports event political is doing just that. even if it's a low key protest like kneeling.


So.... your protest is fine as long as I don't have to deal with your right to demonstrate, and as long as you don't do anything that will bring public attention to your protest.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
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Sep 24 2017 04:44pm
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So.... your protest is fine as long as I don't have to deal with your right to demonstrate, and as long as you don't do anything that will bring public attention to your protest.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.


getting public attention is not the same as disrupting other people's daily activities.

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Neglecting the chances sports give to unite


you mean the chance for blacks and sjws to unite against whites and the rednecks? yeah, sounds unifying.

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Sep 24 2017 04:45pm
President Trump "assaulted" people's freedom of speech by practicing his freedom of speech.

Derp
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Sep 24 2017 04:47pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 24 2017 05:44pm)
getting public attention is not the same as disrupting other people's daily activities.


Not standing for the anthem disrupts other people's daily activities, I guess it was really disruptive prior to 2009 when teams remained in the locker room while the anthem was playing, right?

And you complaining about making sports political when they were already political is kind of funny. I guess you weren't aware that the military spent taxpayer money drumming up patriotism for recruitment at football games?
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Sep 24 2017 04:47pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 24 2017 06:36pm)
It's conservatives pushing the culture war. They LOVE to be offended.


Tell that to Berkeley.
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Sep 24 2017 04:51pm
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President Trump "assaulted" people's freedom of speech by practicing his freedom of speech.

Derp


nah man, thats a weak argument. when the president gives his opinion on a social issue or debate, his opinion automatically, via the authority of his office, has a lot more weight and importance than that of an average citizen.
therefore, the president cant just talk out of his ass like average joe. he must be more careful in the choice of his words and in the choice of the discussions he enters.

when the POTUS, who happens to be best buddies with half a dozen owners of NFL teams, suggests that those NFL owners should fire players over a petty cause that's pissing him off as a private person, he crosses a line and sets a very bad example.
something like that just cant be compared to joe the plumber demanding that NFL bosses fire those players on his twitter account with 17 followers.

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Sep 24 2017 04:59pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 24 2017 04:44pm)
getting public attention is not the same as disrupting other people's daily activities.

you mean the chance for blacks and sjws to unite against whites and the rednecks? yeah, sounds unifying.


You really won't be successful as a protest unless you're inconvenient in some way.

The whole point of protesting is that it is difficult to ignore.

The whitewashed version of history you might have been told about civil rights is that it was non-violent.... but that's just not true. There were many riots during the civil rights movement. Riots are the language of the unheard.
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Sep 24 2017 05:03pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 24 2017 06:59pm)
You really won't be successful as a protest unless you're inconvenient in some way.

The whole point of protesting is that it is difficult to ignore.

The whitewashed version of history you might have been told about civil rights is that it was non-violent... but that's just not true. There were many riots during the civil rights movement. Riots are the language of the unheard.


I'll enjoy killing your stupid pawns then.
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