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Nov 4 2020 12:28pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 4 2020 01:26pm)
I honestly think we should just wipe this polling from our memory. It's not that the polls are necessarily bad, it's that there was a god damn pandemic and Trump was the incumbent. If ever there was a time for models to not capture anything it's this year.

If next round it's 2 boring candidates again, polls will be more accurate. If it remains fucking crazy, polls aren't gonna be accurate. Just gonna have to judge on a case by case basis.


I think the bold is right.
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Nov 4 2020 12:29pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 4 2020 12:25pm)
What? Care to try that one again? Oregon legalized the sale of magic mushrooms, and they reclassified drug possession charges to lesser offenses resulting in a minor fine. The drugs are still illegal, but instead of being slammed for being a junkie, now they only target dealers with felony charges.


decriminalization =/= make legal

im not sure what your saying. i should have said possession if thats what u mean.

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Nov 4 2020 12:29pm
Quote (Warlock316 @ Nov 4 2020 02:27pm)
well.. looks like trump lost


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Nov 4 2020 12:32pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 4 2020 10:27am)
^surfpunk
^thesnipa
^thundercock

speaking as someone who lives in Des Moines, it isn't close to the demographic that a larger city like MKE/Detroit/Minneaplis has etc

it is a classic mid sized city, not to be confused with a metro population. I don't know what the African American population is here, but it is still fairly low I would guess without doing research on it

there was never a question Iowa was going red because even in Des Moines, the most educated and populous city in Des Moines, it feels like it was still fairly split between red and blue. Then when you count the rest of sheitland Iowa the result is foregone conclusion


I called IA for Biden prior to the Selzer poll. Even though it was an outlier, I felt that IA +2-3 was a reasonable range for Trump. Right now we're looking at Trump +7 and he was +10 in 2016.
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Nov 4 2020 12:33pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 4 2020 12:27pm)
^surfpunk
^thesnipa
^thundercock

speaking as someone who lives in Des Moines, it isn't close to the demographic that a larger city like MKE/Detroit/Minneaplis has etc

it is a classic mid sized city, not to be confused with a metro population. I don't know what the African American population is here, but it is still fairly low I would guess without doing research on it

there was never a question Iowa was going red because even in Des Moines, the most educated and populous city in Des Moines, it feels like it was still fairly split between red and blue. Then when you count the rest of sheitland Iowa the result is foregone conclusion


Yeah, plus Ann Selzer traditionally has had some of the best polling modeling and methodology, so that poll coming out fairly spot on doesn't surprise me.
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Nov 4 2020 12:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 4 2020 10:29am)
decriminalization =/= make legal

im not sure what your saying. i should have said possession if thats what u mean.


Yes, that second part. The manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs is still criminalized. It's only the possession of such drugs that is "decriminalized". The text of the measure:

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A "yes" vote supports making personal non-commercial possession of a controlled substance no more than a Class E violation (max fine of $100 fine) and establishing a drug addiction treatment and recovery program funded in part by the state's marijuana tax revenue and state prison savings.
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Nov 4 2020 12:37pm
Quote (juliusjuice @ Nov 4 2020 01:03pm)
Fauci was trying to make sure health experts had enough PPE. People were stockpiling N95 masks in March, these are necessary to keep our healthcare system afloat. Trump actually DISCOURAGED masks knowing how dangerous the pandemic was. He constantly blames everyone else and doesnt take responsibility for his actions. We have FAR more cases and deaths than most countries and you are trying to say "he did what he could." He didnt do shit.


So you criticize trump for downplaying the virus with lies about the danger it poses, but you carry water for fauci lies that, if masking is to be believed, certainly caused thousands of deaths. Weird. at least be consistent in your criticisms.
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Nov 4 2020 12:38pm
Quote (phoenixfire82 @ Nov 4 2020 02:37pm)
So you criticize trump for downplaying the virus with lies about the danger it poses, but you carry water for fauci lies that, if masking is to be believed, certainly caused thousands of deaths. Weird. at least be consistent in your criticisms.


fuck masks
get good or bye
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Nov 4 2020 12:39pm
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Nov 4 2020 12:44pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 4 2020 12:35pm)
Yes, that second part. The manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs is still criminalized. It's only the possession of such drugs that is "decriminalized". The text of the measure:

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A "yes" vote supports making personal non-commercial possession of a controlled substance no more than a Class E violation (max fine of $100 fine) and establishing a drug addiction treatment and recovery program funded in part by the state's marijuana tax revenue and state prison savings.


a good thing imo, taking the punishment off users and stacking it on the cooks and bag boys is a good change.
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