Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 11:21am)

It...it was an attack? They did target military outposts? There's legit videos from Hamas that show them attacking military sites?? https://youtu.be/oL6l-9Qn8SY

This is probably the most bizarre exchange I've come across in 15+ years in PaRD, where "attack" is somehow being seen as biased, neutering language. Is it better if I were to describe it as a "horrific attack"? A "terrorist attack"? I'm not sure what you want from me.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 01:21pm)

It...it was an attack? They did target military outposts? There's legit videos from Hamas that show them attacking military sites?? https://youtu.be/oL6l-9Qn8SY

This is probably the most bizarre exchange I've come across in 15+ years in PaRD, where "attack" is somehow being seen as biased, neutering language. Is it better if I were to describe it as a "horrific attack"? A "terrorist attack"? I'm not sure what you want from me.

Quote (El1te @ Oct 13 2023 11:23am)

Okay good lord now you're posting Hamas propaganda. Read what ^Goomshill wrote about the reality of what happened.

Quote (El1te @ Oct 13 2023 01:55pm)

Palestinians are NOT a particular ethnic group. They are Arabs. No one here is advocating for the genocide of the Arabic people.

Palestine is a terrorist state by definition, in which genocide is codified in it's "constitution", who have an open policy of paying out families who die in the commission of terrorists attacks.

Jordan doesn't want them - they already tried to murder their King in an act of terror.

Lebanon doesn't want them - they already committed a massacre when they were let in.

Egypt doesn't want them for similar reasons.

Gaza is a lone terrorist holdout enclave within a conquered region. The only option is to put them down, as they have demonstrated over the past 70 years that they have no interest in dialogue. They have made the decision for themselves that they would rather fight to the last child rather than negotiate a peaceful existence.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 11:25am)

I don't doubt what Goomshill posted? Is this the Twilight Zone?

Let me slow it down to a 5 MPH neighborhood zone, because apparently this might be needed:

What Hamas did on 10/7 is horrific and was an attack predominately against civilians, many of whom were/are women and children, and should be condemned in every way possible. It is not resistance. It is not protest. It is not humane. It is terrorism.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 11:21am)

There's legit videos from Hamas

Quote (El1te @ Oct 13 2023 11:26am)

Read your own quote here and identify the problem.

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 13 2023 11:24am)

the attacks on specific rhetoric to me signal that people of all sorts are just resorting to semantics because no one knows what to say. ive seen it too from all sides and i find it equally odd. one of the leading points on the "left" is if simply mentioning decapitated babies means u support war crimes. and the right is also cherry picking anything to imply people support hamas. so odd.

Quote (Bazi @ Oct 13 2023 09:05pm)

That is an encouraging number

Do you have a source by chance? because I didn’t see that and major news networks are reiterating UN/Red Cross statements that this could not be done

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 13 2023 11:24am)

the attacks on specific rhetoric to me signal that people of all sorts are just resorting to semantics because no one knows what to say. ive seen it too from all sides and i find it equally odd. one of the leading points on the "left" is if simply mentioning decapitated babies means u support war crimes. and the right is also cherry picking anything to imply people support hamas. so odd.

Quote (fender @ Oct 13 2023 09:23pm)

are you too emotional to distinguish between hamas terrorists and the palestinian people as a whole, or are you using that language deliberately to make yourself feel better about supporting the mass killing of innocent children?

"just leave the area" they said to hundreds of thousands of people, half of them children, many of which don't even have electricity, water, the bare necessities, let alone transportation - "just go..." go where exactly, before the brutal bombing intensifies further?

"you have been warned" say the occupiers, who control their borders.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-rescue-workers-scared-exhausted-under-israels-air-strikes-2023-10-13/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/as-israel-bombards-gaza-palestinians-attempt-to-flee-only-to-discover-nowhere-is-safe

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinians-gaza-say-israeli-bombardment-feels-like-new-nakba-2023-10-10/