Because it is capitalism that turns "caring for themselves" into a competition with winners and losers.

So everytime they've tried to put communism into practice it has failed miserably, and yet somehow its not the system that its wrong its the states that have implemented it. Piss off

it comes down to leftists having no interest in understanding the economics involved and trying to pretend its just the individual dictators and their regimes who failed to properly implement it.

Try to read better. I'm not praising the Soviet style republics. I'm saying that it is disingenuous to claim that those systems are bad because they are somehow responsible for many deaths, when the Western world as a whole gleefully glosses over tens if not hundreds of millions of dead (partly) due to capitalism. And as far as the actual states go, they are not examples of communism or socialism. Lenin himself wrote that he implemented state capitalism in the post-revolution Soviet Republic.



There is still lots of pro-communist sentiment in Russia. I heard it myself when I was there this summer. Especially among those who lived through Chruschev/Breznev era of relative prosperity and the era of Gorbachev/Yeltsin, who bankrupted the nation into a near-decade long famine. There are definite nuances that are barely mentioned in the USA, as McCarthyism is still well and alive. The USA has such a huge boner for capitalism anything that might limit it is looked at with suspicious eyes.

but its capitalism's fault people are starving?
in reality they need MORE capitalism in poor countries not less. mass production for the masses. efficient allocations of resources. etc.


btw lenin calling what he implemented "state capitalism" doesnt actually make communism capitalism.
capitalism by definition is private ownership and trade, rather than the state.

"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state. Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic problem of Socialism—until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name. The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism." It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy, and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism."
-Ludwig von Mises

poor countries need more capitalism, i kinda agree, but what they really need is fewer people

The world population would be less than 1 million without capitalism, but keep spoonfeeding yourself that bullshit.

Anecdotal evidence isnt a statistical argument.

Mind=blown.

It just shows you how T_D operates. Assuming the attack was committed by an Islamic radical isn't surprising... the real humor comes when they find out it wasn't a brown dude with a Muslim name. If it doesn't fit neatly into their political narrative.... false flag fellas! Don't pretend T_D isn't filled with Infowarriors.