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Feb 7 2024 11:24am
Republicanism: Matt Gaetz and his communist friends in the GOP are so afraid that 45th will be held accountable for his crimes and in furtherance themselves eventually held accountable for their crimes that they addressed the press to say that 45th 'did not engage in insurrection'

These clowns must be very fucking afraid if they have resorted to doing this a day after the courts rule that 45th is not immune from criminal prosecution for his disgusting acts leading up to and on jan 6th.

Normally when one gets caught in such lies they come clean, but the GOP just keeps digging itself a deeper and deeper hole to brainwash and persuade uninformed citizens to an alternate version of history. Its disgusting and actually makes me sick tbh

The only people that would accept this garbage are people that arent intelligent enough to understand what a fact is. Jesus christ

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4451345-gaetz-stefanik-offer-resolution-declaring-trump-did-not-engage-in-insurrection/

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Feb 7 2024 11:26am
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 09:24am)
Republicanism: Matt Gaetz and his communist friends in the GOP are so afraid that 45th will be held accountable for his crimes and in furtherance themselves eventually held accountable for their crimes that they addressed the press to say that 45th 'did not engage in insurrection'

These clowns must be very fucking afraid if they have resorted to doing this a day after the courts rule that 45th is not immune from criminal prosecution for his disgusting acts leading up to and on jan 6th.

Normally when one gets caught in such lies they come clean, but the GOP just keeps digging itself a deeper and deeper hole to brainwash and persuade uninformed citizens to an alternate version of history. Its disgusting and actually makes me sick tbh

The only people that would accept this garbage are people that arent intelligent enough to understand what a fact is. Jesus christ

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4451345-gaetz-stefanik-offer-resolution-declaring-trump-did-not-engage-in-insurrection/

https://i.imgur.com/jV1iToD.png


when ya all gona charge him with iNsUrReCtIoN Instead of gibbering constantly bout it ???
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Feb 7 2024 11:37am
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 12:24pm)
Republicanism: Matt Gaetz and his communist friends in the GOP are so afraid that 45th will be held accountable for his crimes and in furtherance themselves eventually held accountable for their crimes that they addressed the press to say that 45th 'did not engage in insurrection'

These clowns must be very fucking afraid if they have resorted to doing this a day after the courts rule that 45th is not immune from criminal prosecution for his disgusting acts leading up to and on jan 6th.

Normally when one gets caught in such lies they come clean, but the GOP just keeps digging itself a deeper and deeper hole to brainwash and persuade uninformed citizens to an alternate version of history. Its disgusting and actually makes me sick tbh

The only people that would accept this garbage are people that arent intelligent enough to understand what a fact is. Jesus christ

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4451345-gaetz-stefanik-offer-resolution-declaring-trump-did-not-engage-in-insurrection/

https://i.imgur.com/jV1iToD.png


Insurrection is a federal crime, that's a fact. Trump has not been charged with insurrection, ergo, the state does not believe that Trump committed insurrection.
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Feb 7 2024 11:42am
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Insurrection is a federal crime, that's a fact. Trump has not been charged with insurrection, ergo, the state does not believe that Trump committed insurrection.


He was charged with


one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States applies to Trump's repeated and widespread efforts to spread false claims about the November 2020 election while knowing they were not true and for allegedly attempting to illegally discount legitimate votes all with the goal of overturning the 2020 election, prosecutors claim in the indictment.
one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding was brought due to the alleged organized planning by Trump and his allies to disrupt the electoral vote's certification in January 2021.
one count of obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding is tied to Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged efforts after the November 2020 election until Jan. 7, 2021, to block the official certification proceeding in Congress.
one count of conspiracy against rights refers to Trump and his co-conspirators alleged attempts to "oppress, threaten and intimidate" people in their right to vote in an election.

the two in the middle are the insurrection ones

an insurrection is defined as a violent uprising against an authority or government

If you remember at all, jan 6th was literally a violent uprising against the governing authority that was tasked with certifying the election.

Trumps lawyers themselves pleaded with 45th to invoke the insurrection act because of the hogs stormign the capitol as an alternate means to subvert the election results

2 + 2 =
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Feb 7 2024 11:43am
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He was charged with


one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States applies to Trump's repeated and widespread efforts to spread false claims about the November 2020 election while knowing they were not true and for allegedly attempting to illegally discount legitimate votes all with the goal of overturning the 2020 election, prosecutors claim in the indictment.
one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding was brought due to the alleged organized planning by Trump and his allies to disrupt the electoral vote's certification in January 2021.
one count of obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding is tied to Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged efforts after the November 2020 election until Jan. 7, 2021, to block the official certification proceeding in Congress.
one count of conspiracy against rights refers to Trump and his co-conspirators alleged attempts to "oppress, threaten and intimidate" people in their right to vote in an election.

the two in the middle are the insurrection ones

an insurrection is defined as a violent uprising against an authority or government

If you remember at all, jan 6th was literally a violent uprising against the governing authority that was tasked with certifying the election.

Trumps lawyers themselves pleaded with 45th to invoke the insurrection act because of the hogs stormign the capitol as an alternate means to subvert the election results

2 + 2 =


Insurrection is its own statute, you don't charge someone with assault and then go on to claim assault is murder. I take this as tacit acknowledgment that Trump is not being charged with insurrection.
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Feb 7 2024 11:44am
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Insurrection is its own statute, you don't charge someone with assault and then go on to claim assault is murder. I take this as tacit acknowledgment that Trump is not being charged with insurrection.


You cant add 2 + 2

well I tried
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Feb 7 2024 11:55am
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 12:44pm)
You cant add 2 + 2

well I tried


Insurrection is the attempted, violent overthrow of the government. It's a federal crime. Trump has not been charged with insurrection, ergo it's false to say that he stands accused of trying to overthrow the US government by force.
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Feb 7 2024 11:58am
Quote (bogie160 @ 7 Feb 2024 12:55)
Insurrection is the attempted, violent overthrow of the government. It's a federal crime. Trump has not been charged with insurrection, ergo it's false to say that he stands accused of trying to overthrow the US government by force.


If it wasnt an insurrection then why did his own lawyers tell him to invoke the insurrection act?

he was also impeached by the Senate for insurrection

This post was edited by Crunkt on Feb 7 2024 11:59am
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Feb 7 2024 12:02pm
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If it wasnt an insurrection then why did his own lawyers tell him to invoke the insurrection act?

he was also impeached by the Senate for insurrection


He was impeached for "incitement of insurrection", and acquitted.

Invoking the Insurrection Act and committing insurrection are two very different things. How are you mixing them up?
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Feb 7 2024 12:03pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 7 Feb 2024 13:02)
He was impeached for "incitement of insurrection", and acquitted.

Invoking the Insurrection Act and committing insurrection are two very different things. How are you mixing them up?


So then why did his lawyers say it was an insurrection?
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