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Sep 12 2017 04:38pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 13 Sep 2017 00:31)


some people just dont know when to quit :lol:
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Sep 12 2017 04:39pm
Quote (IceMage @ 13 Sep 2017 00:36)
Yeah... totally weird for a woman who lost the presidency in a huge upset to include her feelings about it in a book she got paid millions for.


I dont critize her writing this book, I critize that she still feels oh so sorry for herself and blames everyone else but herself. she had all the tools in the world to win this election and actually ran her campaign in much less adverse circumstances than trump ran his. and despite all those things she mentions where others harmed her, she made a multitude of key mistakes, all by herself - and thats what ultimately cost her the election.

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Sep 12 2017 04:45pm
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I dont critize her writing this book, I critize that she still feels oh so sorry for herself and blames everyone else but herself. she had all the tools in the world to win this election and actually ran her campaign in much less adverse circumstances than trump ran his. and despite all those things she mentions where others harmed her, she made a multitude of key mistakes, all by herself - and thats what ultimately cost her the election that she shouldnt have lost.


Have you read her book? How do you know she didn't take responsibility for her mistakes? You posted a link with a small number of quotes about other people.

I know this is a tough concept, but Hillary is a human being. She has feelings about losing the election. She included them in her book about the election. There's plenty of things she could've done to win, and there's plenty of outside factors that influenced the outcome as well.
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Sep 12 2017 04:51pm
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Have you read her book? How do you know she didn't take responsibility for her mistakes? You posted a link with a small number of quotes about other people.

I know this is a tough concept, but Hillary is a human being. She has feelings about losing the election. She included them in her book about the election. There's plenty of things she could've done to win, and there's plenty of outside factors that influenced the outcome as well.


She needs to go away. At least McCain was smart enough to understand that his brand was poisonous to the party post-2008.
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Sep 12 2017 04:58pm
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She needs to go away. At least McCain was smart enough to understand that his brand was poisonous to the party post-2008.


Lol. Almost 3 million more Americans voted for her than Donald Trump. She'll never be running for president again, but she's rightly a permanent figure for the Democratic party and American politics in general.
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Sep 12 2017 05:00pm
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 12 2017 03:58pm)
Lol. Almost 3 million more Americans voted for her than Donald Trump. She'll never be running for president again, but she's rightly a permanent figure for the Democratic party and American politics in general.



Hahahahahahahaha



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Sep 12 2017 05:01pm
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Lol. Almost 3 million more Americans voted for her than Donald Trump. She'll never be running for president again, but she's rightly a permanent figure for the Democratic party and American politics in general.


thank god elections aren't decided in LA and New York
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Sep 12 2017 05:09pm
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thank god elections aren't decided in LA and New York


This isn't really accurate.

Trump only won the south by large margins , in the midwest and in swing states he had 1-3% margins in a lot of districts.

So on the west and east coast he as expected only got 30-40% of the vote but gained 55-65% of the vote in the south and just edged out small margins in middle america.

So you can make the argument that if he barely wins the 3rd largest population region and notably loses the 1st and 2nd largest population regions and only has a big margin win in the smallest population regions in the US , that the electoral college argument that it prevents the majority of popular vote from holding other large sectors of the population hostage to kind of be not as sound as an argument.

For the most part , Northeast/California sill have the largest weight to winning an election.

And gerrymandering has been going on pretty hard the last 20-30 years to try and have districts drawn up that put more conservative leaning populations grouped up together.

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Sep 12 2017 05:58pm
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thank god elections aren't decided in LA and New York


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thank god elections aren't decided in LA and New York


1000x Better than being decided by a minority simply because they live in small swing states.

LA and New York have more people, therefore by definition in a democracy they must have more collective voting power (because each person should have equal voting power).

The US is fundamentally undemocratic in that the system inherently makes certain voters' votes thousands of times more valuable than others'.

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