Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 8 2017 02:55pm)

maybe, but that plan will fail as soon as trump receives serious backlash from conservative media.
putting political strategizing aside to get the harvey relief through congress quickly and without other issues being tied into it, is a move that might have irritated conservative media, but they for sure werent gonna turn on trump for that, and they didnt.

yes, trump siding with pelosi and schumer here is a strategic victory for democrats because they have now set up a big showdown on various issues in december where they will have the leverage to push at least one or two issues from their agenda through. but it was also a big tactical win for trump. last but not least because with this move, he showed mcconnell and ryan that he is able and willing to turn on them if they dont deliver and stand in his way. basically, they screwed him by their failure in the obamacare repeal efforts, and with this move, trump has returned the favor.

gotta admit though, I dont know yet whether this is a strategic victory or a strategic blunder by trump.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 8 2017 04:40pm)

Dems have much more propensity for positive coverage than Republicans.

Republicans only have Fox, Trump watches a dozen other outlets including Fox.

Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Sep 8 2017 12:13pm)

What if this was the democrats master plan. Lifelong democrat Donald Trump runs as a Republican and then masquerades as a lunatic and then goes centrist democrat being exactly what Hillary would be.

Democrats playing 3 dimensional chest?

/s

Quote (Pollster @ Sep 12 2017 07:56am)

What's remarkable is that a version of this -- "Trump the Moderate/Independent/Lone Ranger" -- was being hawked in full seriousness by many of the major papers since. The NYT, WaPo, AP and others all released articles (not editorial, just straight news pieces) arguing that Trump the "Manhattan Democrat" was "upending 150 years of 2-party history" simply by funding the government, averting a debt default, and funding disaster relief -- shit we did 10 years ago with no fanfare before Republicans started taking those things hostage.

We're barely a month removed from the Nazi triple-down and moved right into the Arpaio pardon and DACA, and we're back to hearing about "the pivot." Shit's nuts.

Quote (JohnMiller92 @ 12 Sep 2017 11:58)

What do you mean "Nazi triple-down"?

Quote (JohnMiller92 @ Sep 12 2017 10:58am)

What do you mean "Nazi triple-down"?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 8 2017 04:40pm)

Dems have much more propensity for positive coverage than Republicans.

Republicans only have Fox, Trump watches a dozen other outlets including Fox.

Quote (Skinned @ Sep 8 2017 04:55pm)

The market speaks.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 12 2017 05:31pm)

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/12/hillary-clinton-book-best-passages-and-quotes-242608

she still doesnt get over it. :rofl: