Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 3 2022 05:32am)
It won in several states at a time when state trigger laws were nothing but consequence-free virtue signalling and posturing to the base because no one thought Roe would be overturned. Now, the situation has fundamentally changed; now, radical pro-life politicians will actually have to deal with the fallout from their stance.
But that's the point: will pro-lifers really feel abandoned if 99.X% of abortions are banned, but we don't force underage rape victims to carry stepdaddy's child to term? Of course the GOP would lose them as a voting bloc if it passes laws which allow abortions until the 22nd week or something like that. But this is not what we're discussing here, we're discussing exceptions for very rare and very tragic cases.
In my opinion, these common-sense exceptions are necessary to enable the mechanism that you just described to come into effect: swing voters and independents not caring too much about the abortion issue. If the pro-life faction isn't willing to accept such a compromise, one in which they get 99+% of what they wanted, they are doomed.
And there will be no lasting federal abortions ban anyway.
This isn't some archaic law on the books...the Ohio bill was signed into law in 2019 to protect the fetus. Governor Kristi Noem, a top GOP VP candidate, just went on CNN and said that she doesn't support rape exceptions because you shouldn't have two tragedies. These extraordinarily rare cases will end up taking a back seat to dinner table issues. I don't know why this is surprising to you. I mean, you've said that you would would rather have 2 million dead Ukrainians instead of allowing gas to go up 2 cents per liter. We make all sorts of unethical decisions so that we can benefit financially.
Yes, GOP voters will feel abandoned for giving up after obtaining a decisive victory. Should America have given up after the Battle of Midway?
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 06:06am)
"could you just be a TINY bit less of a woman-hating religious bigot, to spare the lives and mental health of rape and incest victims, of 10 year old kids that were brutally abused?"
american conservatives: "absolutely not!"
agree with tcock though, this won't REALLY hurt republicans electorally. their voters are deplorables anyway, and even those that are not religious zealots and (like many of them) had abortions themselves, and generally don't see a problem with it, will STILL vote red because of tribalism and brainwashing.
He really doesn't understand how strong the GOP coalition is and is in complete denial. I mean these people are willing to abandon DEMOCRACY if it will allow them to get their policies in place. You're absolutely correct that the goal is to take advantage of a wave year and push as hard as possible so that people get used to it. I'm shocked that he can't see that.
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 09:51am)
Insanity. Ectopic pregnancies are non viable and should be terminated immediately.
Quote (Mondain @ Jul 3 2022 10:27am)
How about you just don't have sex unless you're willing and able to raise a child.
<_<
This is akin to affirmative action for incels.
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 10:38am)
The person who wrote this is profoundly ignorant about Catholic teaching. He should read literally 3 paragraphs before tweeting lol.