But if Biden is underperforming EVERYWHERE except MN, that means there's some serious systematic error in the rust belt. With Wisconsin 100% in look at these polls: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/wisconsin/

I think that's a bigger miss than 2016 AND the pollsters were supposed to be weighing education.

The US is ranked 9th in deaths per million population and 17th in cases per million population. And the top 4 states in deaths per million population are all blue states that have been some of the harshest on lockdowns and masking.

I get that it's fun to try to blame Trump for everything under the sun, but at least attempt to keep things accurate.

Its those damn swarthy cubans

Gonna be interesting to see to what degree it was incorrect polling('secret vote' or intentionally deceptive answers) or incorrect modeling (higher rural turnout than anticipated).

as if a piece of cloth is the end-all formula for personal health

literally, take control of your own health. fat obesity c'mon man us amazing specimens of human evolution should not have to suffer because certain people can't put the Ruffles Chips down for a couple of days

Like everyone is going to say Trafalgar is amazing but they had Trump winning almost 30% of the black vote...IN MICHIGAN. Like, they will be close statewide probably but for VERY wrong reasons.

True, but Milwaukee (and its environs) is a significantly higher portion of the WI population that Des Moines is of IA. Although MI and MN are dominated more by Detroit and the Twin Cities, respectively. Hell, the Twin Cities has more people than all of Iowa.

A narrative that will be lost to this madness is that in the US we now have only 7 states where Marijuana is fully illegal (no form of medical/recreational), South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Kansas, Wyoming, Idaho, and Wisconsin.

South Dakota has fallen from the above ranks, as well as a slew of other states getting more green and allowing recreational that previously were medical only.

magic mushrooms were legalized in several areas, and Oregon decriminalized all hard drugs. queue gold rush migration of crack heads i guess.

how is a house previously held up with 50 pylons still standing on 7, thats the question american people must ask themselves in the infancy of a Biden presidency or Trump 2nd term.



100% correct, and generally that shit stripe of WI is far from unified. Green bay areas and Oshkosh areas generally have not been on the same page from election to election. More UAW workers the further south you get, with democratic pockets of lake dwelling rich folks. and suburban white voters in Appleton and elsewhere seem to shit allegiance based on weird factors.

plus the rural areas inbetween are churning out far more votes than before to offset some of the suburban democrat votes, stacking in with UAW voters to give trump a real shot even with MKE and the surrounding area crushing it for Biden. i still think MKE area underperformed on turnout, despite the high numbers. yes its a record, but still too low imo. if that makes sense.

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I thought the Trumpist dismissals of polling this cycle were silly, but going forward I don't know how anyone can take it that seriously. Maybe it can measure shifts in favor of one candidate or another, but the percentages are not reliable.

2018 polling was mostly correct though.

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