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Nov 16 2019 07:14am
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 16 2019 07:03am)
Trump is the Commander in Chief of all the military, and outranks all the generals and the Secretary of Defense.
I don't understand your point.

The article claims to want the UCMJ to handle this, and chain of command is one of the premier concerns of the UCMJ. I spent 7 years of my life adhering to the UCMJ, I'm fairly sure I know how it reads.




/e Also, I've noticed a tendency of folks to use the term boomer... like it's a bad thing. :lol:


Your generation is destroying the United States lol.

Baby boomers have all the entitlements on Earth and they're still going homeless at record pace.

Baby Boomer should all vote for Yang 2020 because they've already voted themselves a government income and they might as well let the rest of us get something. But that would be less for them, right?

At the end of that generation the boomers will be dying in the streets. There are too many of you and since you guys took all the money we can't afford to take care of you.

Maybe financially crippling the Millenials through debt wasn't a great idea.
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Nov 16 2019 07:22am
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Your generation is destroying the United States lol.

Baby boomers have all the entitlements on Earth and they're still going homeless at record pace.

Baby Boomer should all vote for Yang 2020 because they've already voted themselves a government income and they might as well let the rest of us get something. But that would be less for them, right?

At the end of that generation the boomers will be dying in the streets. There are too many of you and since you guys took all the money we can't afford to take care of you.

Maybe financially crippling the Millenials through debt wasn't a great idea.




Yeah, we blamed our parents and grandparents generations too. Every generation does. Doesn't mean any of it's... true. LOL

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Nov 16 2019 07:27am
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Yeah, we blamed our parents and grandparents too. Every generation does. Doesn't mean any of it's... true. LOL


Big difference being that the generations of your parents and grandparents were having a sufficient amount of kids to keep the burden on the working-age population in check. Boomers didnt, and now a big number of them has to be supported by a much smaller number of young folks.

During their own working years, boomers had to support 1 retiree per 2-3 working-age individuals. When the bulk of the boomers hit retirement age, the ratio will be 1:1 or even worse.
Basically, you increased your own material wealth by having less kids while not increasing savings accordingly, and now expect the younger generations to carry a higher burden than previous generations in order to support you.

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Nov 16 2019 07:31am
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Yeah, we blamed our parents and grandparents generations too. Every generation does. Doesn't mean any of it's... true. LOL


You can say no u but the data is there and the numbers add up. You are saying that reality isn't real. And your generations biggest challenge was challenging the military industrial complex and that was an abject failure :(

As a generation Xer it is my pleasure to watch the boomers and the millennials duke it out. You are going to eat each other.

And what you said isn't true. What is blamed on The Grestest Generation? Or my insignificant generation, the baby busters with analog childhoods and digital adulthoods?

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Big difference being that the generations of your parents and grandparents were having a sufficient amount of kids to keep the burden on the working-age population in check. Boomers didnt, and now a big number of them has to be supported by a much smaller number of young folks.

During their own working years, boomers had to support 1 retiree per 2-3 working-age individuals. When the bulk of the boomers hit retirement age, the ratio will be 1:1 or even worse.
Basically, you increased your own material wealth by having less kids while not increasing savings accordingly, and now expect the younger generations to carry a higher burden than previous generations in order to support you.



This, pretty much. Also we haven't had any serious wars to wipe out large groups of boomers.

But that doesn't make boomers... BAD. Whereas, I DO feel that the younger generations coming up, should have realized this BEFORE they signed away their futures in say... student loans.
There is also the tactic of NOT spending more than you can earn, which, when I see all the posts about which $1000 phone everyone NEEDS to buy, I sort of wonder if a $200 phone might not do the job as well. Just as another example.

Ever since I saw the DLC and microtransactions associated with games, I've never understood why folks don't let their gaming dollars speak for them. I mean a company can't SELL DLC and microtransactions, if no one will buy them. Same for $1000 phones. I can still here MY parents saying... that's ridiculous, that cost far too much for what you get. And we were upper middle class.

Going through tough finicial times IS tough, but doing it with no self control, makes it impossible.

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This, pretty much. Also we haven't had any serious wars to wipe out large groups of boomers.

But that doesn't make boomers... BAD. Whereas, I DO feel that the younger generations coming up, should have realized this BEFORE they signed away their futures in say... student loans.
There is also the tactic of NOT spending more than you can earn, which, when I see all the posts about which $1000 phone everyone NEEDS to buy, I sort of wonder if a $200 phone might not do the job as well. Just as another example.

Ever since I saw the DLC and microtransactions associated with games, I've never understood why folks don't let their gaming dollars speak for them. I mean a company can't SELL DLC and microtransactions, if no one will buy them. Same for $1000 phones. I can still here MY parents saying... that's ridiculous, that cost far too much for what you get. And we were upper middle class.

Going through tough finicial times IS tough, but doing it with no self control, makes it impossible.


Im not among those who say boomers are bad or evil or anything like that. What they are is ignorant. Ignorant to the plight of millenials and Gen Zers who were born into a world with much less economic opportunity. Reduced economic opportunity which in some regards comes down to bad and selfish decisions the boomer generation made.

When you talk about student loans, you ignore that those downright exploded compared to your generation - while the necessity of a college degree went up, and of course earning opportunities didnt go up nearly accordingly.
When you talk about not spending more than you can earn, you ignore how limited earning opportunities are these days, and how little financial breathing room a lot of the young folks have due to skyhigh rents, crippling healthcare costs, crippling student loan debt and so on. This is particularly true for those millenials who dont have rich boomer parents from which they can inherit houses or big sums of cash.

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Im not among those who say boomers are bad or evil or anything like that. What they are is ignorant. Ignorant to the plight of millenials and Gen Zers who were born into a world with much less economic opportunity. Reduced economic opportunity which in some regards comes down to bad and selfish decisions the boomer generation made.

When you talk about student loans, you ignore that those downright exploded compared to your generation - while the necessity of a college degree went up, and of course earning opportunities didnt go up nearly accordingly.
When you talk about not spending more than you can earn, you ignore how limited earning opportunities are these days, and how little financial breathing room a lot of the young folks have due to skyhigh rents, crippling healthcare costs, crippling student loan debt and so on. This is particularly true for those millenials who dont have rich boomer parents from which they can inherit houses or big sums of cash.




Ok. Here's a newsflash. It's not boomers JOB to worry about how the millennials are faring. Boomers, like every generation should be worrying about how THEY are faring.

Secondly it IS millennials JOB to worry about how THEY are doing. And in the current economic climate, trying to purchase $100 worth of stuff for $10, isn't gonna work. It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
If you can't afford a house, you're either shopping in the wrong place, or not budgeting properly.

Here's a picture for you folks, that think you have it rough....







This is when my parents (as children) and my grandparents grew up. Maybe you can understand why I'm not so sympathetic with a generation that can't afford a car and a $1000 phone. ^^
My mother, as a child used to sell chickens, that their family raised, to the rich people, rain or shine, summer and winter. They sold vegetables they grew as well.
My dad use to tell a sotry of how he spent a whole day digging a quarter out of where it had been pressed down into the tar on the street over years and years of traffic.

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Nov 16 2019 09:17am
This boomer vs millennial discussion is incredibly dumb.

I'm a millennial and i don't have any sort of ill feelings towards any other generation. It's such a 2019, hyper offended, blame someone else for your issues limp-wristed conversation.
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Nov 16 2019 09:25am
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This boomer vs millennial discussion is incredibly dumb.

I'm a millennial and i don't have any sort of ill feelings towards any other generation. It's such a 2019, hyper offended, blame someone else for your issues limp-wristed conversation.



Yep, yep. ^^
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Nov 16 2019 09:26am
Quote (Ghot @ 16 Nov 2019 16:00)
Ok. Here's a newsflash. It's not boomers JOB to worry about how the millennials are faring. Boomers, like every generation should be worrying about how THEY are faring.

Secondly it IS millennials JOB to worry about how THEY are doing. And in the current economic climate, trying to purchase $100 worth of stuff for $10, isn't gonna work. It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
If you can't afford a house, you're either shopping in the wrong place, or not budgeting properly.

Here's a picture for you folks, that think you have it rough....


https://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/media/filer_public_thumbnails/filer_public/b5/56/b5569184-1c06-4b97-88c4-e317cf3cb183/dustbowl_unemployed_men_queued_outside_a_depression_soup_kitchen_1931_-_nara.jpg__2000x1457_q85_crop_subsampling-2_upscale.jpg




This is when my parents (as children) and my grandparents grew up. Maybe you can understand why I'm not so sympathetic with a generation that can't afford a car and a $1000 phone. ^^
My mother, as a child used to sell chickens, that their family raised, to the rich people, rain or shine, summer and winter. They sold vegetables they grew as well.
My dad use to tell a sotry of how he spent a whole day digging a quarter out of where it had been pressed down into the tar on the street over years and years of traffic.


If millenials followed your advice and did what's best for them economically, without worrying about others, they'd cut your pension.

the "if you cant afford a house, you're looking in the wrong place" line is incredibly dumb. nowadays, most good jobs are only found in booming cities, and the housing market in these is a disaster. living a good life in rural regions with cheap house prices is increasingly difficult because these regions are increasingly devoid of any good jobs.

the comparison with the soup kitchens at the height of the great depression is misleading since the problems we're complaining about are occuring during the best economic times. jobs are abundant these days, the economy is doing great, inflation is average - and too many people still struggle to make ends meet, too many people who did everything right in their life struggle to just reach the level of their parents. what do you think happens when the inevitable recession eventually hits or when the various debt bubbles burst? The situation in 2019 has to be compared with 1926, not 1931.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 16 2019 09:27am
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