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do you think that there is any evidence that there is a God?


No. There isn't any evidence that there is or isn't a god at this point. Modern physics shows us that even the fact that the universe or universes exist does not mean there is a god.

That's why I am an agnostic. There isn't any evidence, IMO. There exists a ridiculous amount of uncertainty regarding the topic.
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No. There isn't any evidence that there is or isn't a god at this point. Modern physics shows us that even the fact that the universe or universes exist does not mean there is a god.

That's why I am an agnostic. There isn't any evidence, IMO. There exists a ridiculous amount of uncertainty regarding the topic.

if there's no evidence for (that), then wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the case is not (that)?
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Nov 14 2015 08:29pm
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if there's no evidence for (that), then wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the case is not (that)?


Russell's teapot is real, I seen't it.
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Russell's teapot is real, I seen't it.

that's just a fact.
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Nov 14 2015 08:41pm
Quote (Gastly @ Nov 14 2015 10:07pm)
if there's no evidence for (that), then wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the case is not (that)?



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Quote (PKSubban @ Nov 15 2015 05:41am)
no

then i do not understand. if there is no reasonable evidence for there existing (this), then wouldn't the state of affairs seem to be that (this) doesn't exist?

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Quote (Gastly @ Nov 14 2015 10:07pm)
if there's no evidence for (that), then wouldn't it be reasonable to believe that the case is not (that)?


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then i do not understand. if there is no reasonable evidence for there existing (this), then wouldn't the state of affairs seem to be that (this) doesn't exist?


already a signifiant difference between bolded statement ?

If there is no evidence that (this) exist does not make reasonable to believe that (this) doesn't exist, it only make reasonable that you cannot be sure that (this) exist. Either way having any certitude is not reasonable, maybe by "belief" you don't imply any certitude and language barrer may got me wrong here.

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Quote (PKSubban @ Nov 15 2015 06:04am)
Either way having any certitude is not reasonable, maybe by "belief" you don't imply any certitude and language barrer may got me wrong here.

so, how freely may i substitute (this) and (that) by any kind of thought that might be available to me? could i say that i'm agnostic about homeopathy working even if i find no reason whatsoever to believe in homeopathy?

i don't know about certitude being that good. for example, we all talk and act according to things that are not absolutely certain. for example, i might decide to walk across the zebra crossing without having absolute and total knowledge that no car is not going to cross me. this wouldn't count as that important in terms of total knowledge, but it's knowledge nonetheless.

or i could believe that the chain of causality will be going on even tomorrow, even though i can't be absolutely and fully certain of it. i fully understand that it will go on, but there might be no compelling reason for anyone to believe that it will. yet, causal skeptics are awfully rare.

or i might expect to be going on about my day without giving the slightest thought to UFO sightings being real even though there is no absolute certainty that they absolutely never won't happen until Scully and Mulder show up at my doorstep.

i've got no reason to totally believe in these things. i'd even go as far as to say that i don't believe in them ever happening, more or less convincingly depending upon the case. i'm not fully convinced that Scully and Mulder won't ever possibly show up at my door, and in fact i sometimes think about Scully showing up at my doorstep.. but this does not mean that it will ever happen as far as my understanding of the world is correct.

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so, how freely may i substitute (this) and (that) by any kind of thought that might be available to me? could i say that i'm agnostic about homeopathy working even if i find no reason whatsoever to believe in homeopathy?


you don't need to find a reason to believe that homeopathy can work, you just to have to accept that you will never understand why it could work because of your limits. More simple for that example, the placebo effect and the non-medical ingredient effect could be enough to say that it "works".


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i don't know about certitude being that good. for example, we all talk and act according to things that are not absolutely certain. for example, i might decide to walk across the zebra crossing without having absolute and total knowledge that no car is not going to cross me. this wouldn't count as that important in terms of total knowledge, but it's knowledge nonetheless.


doesn't change the fact that you have no certitude, we have no other choice to act as bolded



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Hi, some.crazy snake offered me fruit. Im worried, that its duped, and gods gonna ban me from eden realm. What should i.do?

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