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#1461
Oct 13 2023 12:01pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 13 2023 01:00pm)
Let me consult my omniscient satellite to detail precisely how many people are trying to escape and how many are being held back and/or killed by Hamas

seriously what is it with this nonsense.


It was clearly rhetorically because the task is obviously impossible in this timeframe with this lack of infrastructure
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Oct 13 2023 12:02pm
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 13 2023 08:58pm)
This isn’t a whataboutism argument I am making

I asked you if you thought it was possible?


600k already left
Yes they can
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Oct 13 2023 12:03pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 10:57am)
Because the immediate situation is unfolding in the here-and-now between Palestine and Israel. The international community--at least the West--is trying to find a way to contain Israel's bloodrage for revenge while knowing that Israel will decimate Gaza with little consequence despite violations of international law. The primary situation before us is how do we prevent the peak of the humanitarian crisis that is continuing to unfold for people who have no water, electricity, medical care, and quite literally physical land to go to as refugees.


What events preceded this immediate situation?
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Oct 13 2023 12:04pm
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 13 2023 11:01am)
It was clearly rhetorically because the task is obviously impossible in this timeframe with this lack of infrastructure


Have you looked at Google maps?

Gaza is extremely small and can be walked across within a day, no vehicles or infrastructure required.

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 13 2023 12:05pm
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#1465
Oct 13 2023 12:05pm
Quote (NiRo_O @ Oct 13 2023 01:02pm)
600k already left
Yes they can


That is an encouraging number

Do you have a source by chance? because I didn’t see that and major news networks are reiterating UN/Red Cross statements that this could not be done
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Oct 13 2023 12:06pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 13 2023 11:03am)
What events preceded this immediate situation?


Many things, and if you ask the Palestinians the Israelis the same question, and depending on how far back one goes, you'll be having the same argument for the rest of the century.

It is very clear to me who does and doesn't have experience with conflict resolution.
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Oct 13 2023 12:07pm
Quote (Bazi @ Oct 13 2023 01:01pm)
It was clearly rhetorically because the task is obviously impossible in this timeframe with this lack of infrastructure


full scale evacuation (90%+ of gaza) is only required if they do full bombing. 60-70% of the people leaving to even as close as a few miles away is sufficient for a ground assault with minimal casualties.

hope is that this is what happens, israel moves into an area with stragglers, injured, elderly, etc in shelters and hospitals. and not much else.
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Oct 13 2023 12:09pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 11:06am)
Many things, and if you ask the Palestinians the Israelis the same question, and depending on how far back one goes, you'll be having the same argument for the rest of the century.

It is very clear to me who does and doesn't have experience with conflict resolution.


"Many things"? Sounds to me like you're ignoring and downplaying what happened here.
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Oct 13 2023 12:10pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 13 2023 10:58am)
Your pain and anger are valid. They are, however, bringing out the least empathetic and most violent parts of you.


This isn't the time to be sermonizing about turning the other cheek.

There were people like you as well during WWII, saying we should just turn the other cheek towards Germany.

And they're now on the wrong side of history.
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#1470
Oct 13 2023 12:10pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 13 2023 11:09am)
"Many things"? Sounds to me like you're ignoring and downplaying what happened here.


No, legitimately, many things have happened. Horrible, human rights violations included.
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