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Sep 1 2017 01:10pm
Quote (Ghot @ Sep 1 2017 01:09pm)
Yep, yep.


Cool, so currently 95/5 in favor of obama. Next year we'll upgrade to 50/50
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Sep 1 2017 01:10pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 1 2017 01:04pm)
Trump has made basically no changes, so there's not much he can do to take credit for success. Until he does something he can't expect to get credit.


The economy isn't driven by fiscal policy as much as its driven by market forces and confidence. Trump had a marked impact simply by being elected as markets adjusted in anticipation of his stimulus, tax reform and infrastructure packages.
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Sep 1 2017 01:11pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 1 Sep 2017 15:06)
do I really have to dig up all the countless articles from liberal media about how the stock markets and the economy are gonna crash immediately and hard if trump is elected?



I already did for the lefty losers here:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76316445&f=119&p=516591343

Quote (excellence @ 17 May 2017 17:30)
uh what?
why go and create #fakenews like that when we all know many predicted a stock market fall, including buzzfeed 2.0

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/24/investing/stocks-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ - A Trump win would sink stocks. What about Clinton?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-wall-street-effect-markets-230164 - Economists: A Trump win would tank the markets
http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/donald-trump-stocks-crash/ - A Huge Hedge Fund Says Stocks Will Crash if Donald Trump Wins
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31 - The stock market could crash if Donald Trump is elected president
http://www.investors.com/news/fbi-reveals-more-evidence-that-stocks-will-fall-if-trump-wins/ - FBI Reveals More Evidence That Stocks Will Fall If Trump Wins
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/business/dealbook/what-happens-to-the-markets-if-donald-trump-wins.html - What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?..."The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitously."
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2016/11/10/ny-timess-paul-krugman-trump-wins-markets-will-never-recover - NY Times's Paul Krugman, As Trump Wins: Markets Will 'Never' Recover
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/06/Mark-Cuban-Stocks-Will-Crash-if-Trump-Wins - Mark Cuban: Stocks Will Crash if Trump Wins


luckily for good hard-working Americans who voted for and support Trump, our confidence was fully expressed once his election was confirmed and has ever since B)



They ignored it like little fella thor just did.
Remember theyre still in denial about the election :lol:
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 1 2017 03:10pm)
Cool, so currently 95/5 in favor of obama. Next year we'll upgrade to 50/50



Trump is already showing faster growth in just 8 months than Obama showed after 8 years.
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Sep 1 2017 01:13pm
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Trump is already showing faster growth in just 8 months than Obama showed after 8 years.


Not if you look at the comparison from where it started.

Trump barely increased from obamas baseline.
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Sep 1 2017 01:15pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 1 2017 03:07pm)
They would be irrelevant if you did


why don't you go protest with all your leftist friends if you're so upset bro?
i bet you didn't even vote... most triggered leftists didn't.
which is pretty ironic of course. B)
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Sep 1 2017 01:16pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 1 Sep 2017 21:07)
They would be irrelevant if you did


you blame trump for "not having done anything", and argue that he therefore doesnt deserve praise for the solid economy. this is a flawed argument, because presidents generally only have a modest influence on the economy unless they totally fuck something up. remember the great 90s economy under bill clinton? it had more to do with the baby boomer generation hitting its prime earning years and with the "peace dividend" due to the end of the cold war than with what clinton did.

fact of the matter is: obama didnt do much for the economy either once the immediate crisis response and rescue packages were passed at the beginning of his presidency. the economic trajectory since then has been mostly debt-driven. if there is anyone who should get the bulk of the praise, it's the FED, not obama or trump. also keep in mind that the US population is growing rapidly which is "naturally" driving growth rates. if the population grows by, for example, 1% per year and the growth rate of the economy is 3%, then roughly 1 of those 3 percent is due to the population growth and not due to a substantial improvement of the economy.

so actually, we should praise neither trump nor obama too much for the current economy. but if we do, the distribution should currently be between 50/50 and 66/34.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 1 2017 01:20pm
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Sep 1 2017 01:19pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 1 2017 03:13pm)
Trump barely increased from obamas baseline.


I'll try it again...m o r e - s l o w l y, this time...

Obama had 8 YEARS to get his economic plan going, Trump has had 8 months. Yet Trump is showing faster growth.



/e Yes, the Reps fought Obama, but no-wheres near like the Dems have fought with Trump.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 1 2017 03:16pm)
you blame trump for "not having done anything", and argue that he therefore doesnt deserve praise for the solid economy. this is a flawed argument, because presidents generally only have a modest influence on the economy unless they totally fuck something up. remember the great 90s economy under bill clinton? it had more to do with the baby boomer generation hitting its prime earning years and with the "peace dividend" due to the end of the cold war than with what clinton did.

fact of the matter is: obama didnt do much for the economy either once the immediate crisis response and rescue packages were passed at the beginning of his presidency. the economic trajectory since then has been mostly debt-driven. if there is anyone who should get the bulk of the praise, it's the FED, not obama or trump. also keep in mind that the US population is growing rapidly which is "naturally" driving growth rates. if the population grows by, for example, 1% per year and the growth rate of the economy is 3%, then roughly 1 of those 3 percent is due to the population growth and not due to a substantial improvement of the economy.

so actually, we should praise neither trump nor obama too much for the current economy. but if we do, the distribution should currently be between 50/50 and 66/34.


why even waste your time explaining to him bro?
lefty libbies don't deal in logic...
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Sep 1 2017 01:28pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 1 Sep 2017 15:13)
Not if you look at the comparison from where it started.

Trump barely increased from obamas baseline.




>3.0% is barely increased from a 1.5% baseline :unsure:
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