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Jul 3 2022 07:29am
Quote (fender @ 3 Jul 2022 15:06)
agree with tcock though, this won't REALLY hurt republicans electorally. their voters are deplorables anyway, and even those that are not religious zealots and (like many of them) had abortions themselves, and generally don't see a problem with it, will STILL vote red because of tribalism and brainwashing.


Big disagree. The last two presidential elections and and countless pivotal Senate races over the past decade were decided by a margin of less than 2%. In a somewhat neutral year (i.e. not 2022), losing just 1 in 40 of its voter base over the abortion issue would spell disaster for the GOP. In presidential years, when turnout is high on both sides, the GOP cannot afford to alienate swing voters and moderates.

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Big disagree. The last two presidential elections and and countless pivotal Senate races over the past decade were decided by a margin of less than 2%. In a somewhat neutral year (i.e. not 2022), losing just 1 in 40 of its voter base over the abortion issue would spell disaster for the GOP. In presidential years, when turnout is high on both sides, the GOP cannot afford to alienate swing voters and moderates.


until that point, somewhere in the distant future, people will have gotten used to republican taliban rule, women will have been sufficiently demonised and marginalised, and right wing propaganda will have "convinced" even the most "critical" conservative that forcing births (though considered a crime against humanity by the UN) is the only way to "save" america.

republicans have already found yet another way to "win" elections they lost by millions, and even when they lose the electoral college by present standards: the conservative activist judges on the supreme court will (in october, moore v harper) rule to strengthen the insurrectionists' arguments concerning the electoral count act, meaning that states with republican legislatures just hand their electoral votes to republican candidates even when the democrat won the state - handing republicans lost elections, like they did for bush v gore.
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Jul 3 2022 10:36am
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until that point, somewhere in the distant future, people will have gotten used to republican taliban rule, women will have been sufficiently demonised and marginalised, and right wing propaganda will have "convinced" even the most "critical" conservative that forcing births (though considered a crime against humanity by the UN) is the only way to "save" america.

republicans have already found yet another way to "win" elections they lost by millions, and even when they lose the electoral college by present standards: the conservative activist judges on the supreme court will (in october, moore v harper) rule to strengthen the insurrectionists' arguments concerning the electoral count act, meaning that states with republican legislatures just hand their electoral votes to republican candidates even when the democrat won the state - handing republicans lost elections, like they did for bush v gore.


This is nonsensical garbage. Pointing out that elective abortion is nothing more than murder and "doctors" who make their living performing it are nothing but state sanctioned murderers is not "demonizing women". "The Base" has zero interest in forcing rape victims to carry the child to term. The "news article" absolutely screams "fake news" in it's copypasta format and lack of any details whatsoever.

Republicans did not "lose" the last election that democrats "really won by millions". Remove California, they simply won the election in both popular and electoral vote. Hence WHY there is an electoral college. One state, no matter it's population, can NOT dictate the laws, policies, and regulations of the other 49 states.

Republicans did not "win" or "lose" with the overturning of Roe v Wade. The Supreme Court exists in it's basic function to prevent the federal government from infringing on the rights of the people of the States to be self governing. Dobbs v Jackson aka the abortion of Roe didn't overturn abortion. It simply said the Constitution doesn't say shit about abortion at all, therefore, Constitutionally, according to both the 9th and 10th Amendments, the issue falls to the States.

This is not a question of "activist judges" but simply judges who judge based on the Constitution. The Federal Government does not exist to dictate the day to day living of the States. And a Supreme Court ruling that it has no power to make law is not "activist" but simply "doing it's job". Because the SCOTUS is NOT the lawmaking arm of the government. The Congress is.

It's well past time you shut the fuck up about the subject, German. You neither understand the US Governmental system, nor are impacted.
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Jul 3 2022 10:56am
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My friend's attorney says... What? More propaganda from the German about something that doesn't impact him in any way. Go figure.
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Jul 3 2022 11:05am
unstable bob is doing his best brownshirt impression. goddamn fascist incels...
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unstable bob is doing his best brownshirt impression. goddamn fascist incels...


Are you an American? No. Are you impacted? No. Are you posting propaganda? Yes.

If there's fascism occurring here, it's coming directly from you. As to incels, just lol. It's hilarious you of all people would talk about incels. The majority of the Americans in PaRD, left or right, are married, including the person you're speaking about. Are you?

Are you angry that the overturning of Roe is an acknowledgement that the States have a right to be self-governing in anything/everything that's not laid out in the Constitution? Why does that anger you? How are you impacted or involved? My State allows abortion up to birth. No restrictions whatsoever. No impact from Roe's existence whatsoever.

Go on, fender. Share with the class. Where and how did the US hurt you? Are you simply promoting abortion in the US because you're bitter the US defeated your agenda in WWII, by chance?
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Jul 3 2022 11:16am
deranged bob is seething right now... friggin brownshirts...



america big shithole, lol.
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Jul 3 2022 11:20am
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deranged bob is seething right now... friggin brownshirts...

https://i.imgur.com/vmDNkxg.jpeg

america big shithole, lol.


Keep going fender. Enlighten the class please. Start by explaining how abortion is "banned" when I live in a state that, by law, allows abortion right up to the point of birth.

Don't worry, we'll wait. Once again, why is a German promoting Americans murdering their own children? You do realize the war was over before you were born, right? :)
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Jul 3 2022 11:24am
batshit bob doesn't even know what "children" are and what "murder" means, lol. neither does he know how red states treat abortions. what an uninformed little brownshirt, lol.



shithole indeed.
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