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Nov 14 2015 04:10pm
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When you think about it, the two books were written around the same time, remember me saying ALL THE RELIGIONS have the same base? The epic of gilgamesh is a polytheistic tale based on the factual occurence of the Noahic flood of around 3000 BC. The Noah flood is in the book of Elohim, that describes how sin entered the world, why death exists, and how we can be logically be saved from it. It is also a serious mistake to relate someone like Yahshua to that of Horus. Didn't you already know that ancient egypt is the BELLY of occultism ?


Actually its Atra-Hasis and Gligamesh> Noah

Atra-Hasis ("exceedingly wise") is the protagonist of an 18th-century BCE Akkadian epic recorded in various versions on clay tablets. The Atra-Hasis tablets include both a creation myth and a flood account, which is one of three surviving Babylonian deluge stories. The name "Atra-Hasis" also appears on one of the Sumerian king lists as king of Shuruppak in the times before a flood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atra-Hasis

The earliest Sumerian Gilgamesh poems date from as early as the Third dynasty of Ur (2100–2000 BCE).[4] One of these poems mentions Gilgamesh’s journey to meet the flood hero, as well as a short version of the flood story.[5] The earliest Akkadian versions of the unified epic are dated to ca. 2000–1500 BCE.[6] Due to the fragmentary nature of these Old Babylonian versions, it is unclear whether they included an expanded account of the flood myth; although one fragment definitely includes the story of Gilgamesh’s journey to meet Utnapishtim. The “standard” Akkadian version included a long version of the story and was edited by Sin-liqe-unninni sometime between 1300 and 1000 BCE.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

P didn't even write the Bibles Flood till around 500- 400 BCE
the Priestly source (P) : written c. 500 BCE by Kohanim (Jewish priests) in exile in Babylon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

the Priestly source (P) was likely written c. 400 BCE in the post-exilic period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplementary_hypothesis

I've never said anything about Yahshua. I don't know where you get the Egyptian Religion being a belly of occultism? Abraham and Jacob were pagans till they chose El To be their Elohim. El is NOT Yahweh of the Jewish bible/Christian. He was the High God of the Canaanite Religion. He has is own stories which can be found in the Ugaritic
Tablets. I'll link one where he has a drinking party and ends up soiling himself.
http://inamidst.com/stuff/notes/feast

I'll chop up the middle of your paragraph. You still have not proved your Religion or whatever you want to call it to be the correct one.

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once again I tell you to not fall into the alien doctrine or into the occultism thing,

That is Scientology my friend. I don't follow that bat shit crazy crap.
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Nov 14 2015 04:13pm
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Implying yours isn't...

You're in for a rude awakening someday ;)


Where did you come to this conclusion that his is a belief system?

A rude awakening? People have been predicting the second coming of Jesus ever since his supposed death/resurrection. All have failed.
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Nov 14 2015 04:17pm
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Where did you come to this conclusion that his is a belief system?

A rude awakening? People have been predicting the second coming of Jesus ever since his supposed death/resurrection. All have failed.


I'm saying if you are atheist it is still based on a belief system. Everything you think and have thought of in your entire life is.
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Nov 14 2015 04:23pm
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I'm saying if you are atheist it is still based on a belief system. Everything you think and have thought of in your entire life is.


True. Maybe he should of said faith instead of belief. It really depends on the context of the word belief IMO.
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Nov 14 2015 04:29pm
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I'm saying if you are atheist it is still based on a belief system. Everything you think and have thought of in your entire life is.


it's the refusal to "believe" the "anti believe" doesnt exist ;)
and it's not entire life.
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Nov 14 2015 04:46pm
Quote (balrog66 @ 14 Nov 2015 17:17)
I'm saying if you are atheist it is still based on a belief system. Everything you think and have thought of in your entire life is.


Technically speaking, atheism is not a disbelief in gods, but rather a lack of belief in gods or deities. So there is a logical distinction there, but yeah, effectively they are almost the same thing.

Agnosticism, however, is unequivocally not a belief system. Agnosticism refers to uncertainty whether a god or deity exists. It exists within a realm of knowledge/lack of knowledge rather than a belief system.

One can actually be an agnostic atheist. An agnostic atheist is someone who has a lack of belief in a god but acknowledges that their belief cannot be proven to be certain either way.

Atheism addresses belief, agnosticism addresses knowledge or lack thereof (certainty). They are two different spheres.
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Nov 14 2015 05:01pm
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Technically speaking, atheism is not a disbelief in gods, but rather a lack of belief in gods or deities. So there is a logical distinction there, but yeah, effectively they are almost the same thing.

Agnosticism, however, is unequivocally not a belief system. Agnosticism refers to uncertainty whether a god or deity exists. It exists within a realm of knowledge/lack of knowledge rather than a belief system.

One can actually be an agnostic atheist. An agnostic atheist is someone who has a lack of belief in a god but acknowledges that their belief cannot be proven to be certain either way.

Atheism addresses belief, agnosticism addresses knowledge or lack thereof (certainty). They are two different spheres.


I consider myself a Agnostic Atheist. I don't doubt the possibility of a deity being out there. As for the deities invented by man. I hold no belief/faith for them.

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Qodesh, i suggest you make him a 300$ donation for helping you understand basic geology


Forgot to quote this awhile back. Yea man. Would be nice to get a Autoguider for my Astrophotography rig ;)

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Nov 14 2015 05:06pm
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I consider myself a Agnostic Atheist. I don't doubt the possibility of a deity being out there. As for the deities invented by man. I hold no belief/faith for them.


Yeah. Pretty much the definition of an agnostic atheist. I'm the exact same.
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Nov 14 2015 05:36pm
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Yeah. Pretty much the definition of an agnostic atheist. I'm the exact same.

do you think that there is any evidence that there is a God?
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Nov 14 2015 06:29pm
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do you think that there is any evidence that there is a God?


I know this question wasn't directed to me but I'll try.
It would be hard to distinguish what constitutes as "evidence" of a deity/deities
Maybe someday we will invent the technology to find "evidence" of it/them.

It would be hard to give a yes or a no giving what technology we have so I myself would stand with I don't know/maybe.
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