So I guess you can't rebut that then? All we need to do in post lengthy essays and you will not be able to come up with any kind of counterclaim? That's very interesting information that you have just leaked.

Here, rebut this research on something I wrote more than a decade ago based on a sermon:

Can You Really Trust The Bible?

Genesis 3: 1-13

The Fall

3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

New International Version (NIV)

1. The facts about The Bible

The first thing I must ask you is this: Would you be prepared to trust The Bible if the evidence were there? Carefully ponder this question before you move on.

Don't trust The Bible.

Many people don't trust The Bible due to various reasons. One of them being that it is a very old book. Something written 2000 years ago isn't reliable to today's standards.
Perhaps people back then weren't that smart, they didn't have the internet, wikipedia or any of that kind of stuff. That could be further from the truth.

The time of the New Testament was a time of literacy, everybody wrote stuff down. Everybody wanted to learn. To sum it all up in an age, I'd call it the Age of Education.
Basically, education back then meant a big deal. Being a Rabbi or teacher back then was a big deal. That is what Jesus was, a Rabbi, a teacher. In a nutshell, everything we know today has all come from what they all learned all those years ago.

Conspiracy Theory.
"Most conspiracy theories don't make sense nor withstand any scrutiny. They usually involve operations so immense that it's basically impossible for them to be kept secret, and all the proof given by conspiracy theorists usually have a very simple explanation (usually much simpler than the explanation given by the theorists)."
Conspiracy Theories generally have very simple explanations. That means the story isn't very detailed. Now when we look at The Bible, the stories are very detailed, look at the smaller detail. I'll list a few examples.

Luke 1:1-4
New International Version (NIV)
Introduction

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

How does Luke start off his Gospel? In a Galaxy far away? Once upon a time? No. He states that many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been filled AMONG US. Among us means it happened all around them, not some distant planet. The stories were handed down by those who from the first were EYEWITNESSES. That means that the ones who saw what happened told everybody what they saw. Now Eyewitnesses is a plural; there is more than one eyewitness. There were many eyewitnesses telling their version of the story. Now after Luke heard all of the stories he CAREFULLY INVESTIGATED everything. That means he analysed every story and put in a very detailed story based off eyewitness accounts. If 3 people tell the same story, one person will add an extra part in that story. Some leave things out. However, if you hear the same story from different eyewitnesses, some will add extra detail in that others may have left out. Now that is by no means evidence of a dumb person from over 2000 years ago.

Mark 15:20-21

20 When they had mocked Him, they stripped Him of the purple robe, put His clothes on Him, and led Him out to crucify Him.

21 They forced a man coming in from the country, who was passing by, to carry Jesus’ cross. He was Simon, a Cyrenian, the father of Alexander and Rufus.

I highlighted the last part to highlight the detailed point. Now remember Conspiracy Theories are very simple explanations without detail. So When Jesus was carrying the Cross and he collapsed the third time, the Romans made somebody to help Jesus carry the cross. The Bible gives his name, his nationality and even who he is the father of.
Now if it were a Conspiracy Theory you would surely leave out 'the father of Alexander and Rufus.' That extra detail is based off an eyewitness account who added that little extra detail in. That is how the Gospel is devised.

Matthew 28:16-20
New International Version (NIV)
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

I don't really like to post single verses but I want you to focus on verse 17 "When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted." The extra little detail is some doubted. This is after Jesus died, rose again and then he appeared to many people.
Now a Conspiracy Theory would leave out the fact that some people doubted because without it, that verse looks all positive. However, The Bible isn't devised like that as it tells you what happened without leaving some parts out.

1 Corinthians 15:3-6
New International Version (NIV)
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.

Jesus, the one who died and rose again had appeared to more than 500 people. Back then 500 different people could tell you their eyewitness testimony of seeing Jesus alive again. You cannot surely shun 500 eyewitness testimonies.
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Now lets talk about the time of when the Gospel was written and how many copies there are.

We do have copies of famous people who write literature. I'll just post it up on here.



As you can see, there are no close seconds. We have heard of Aristotle and Juluis Caesar I'm sure. They had less copies of literature and their accounts were written over 1000 years after their time.

You cannot possibly deny all the 24k+ copies of somebody's life and that was written just 90 years after their time had come and gone here on Earth.

Let me put it to you like this. Have you ever watched or heard of a youtube video called Guitar tutor man? I'm sure the answer is no. That video doesn't even have 2000 views. I can easily go and shout to the world that Guitar tutor man doesn't exist on youtube and you can easily believe me.

Now have you ever watched or heard of a youtube video called PSY - Gangnam Style? Ofcourse you have as it has reached over 1.2 billion views, the other has over 11 million views. Now if I go and shout to the world that, Gangnam Style on youtube doesn't exist, no way I could get you all to believe me.

Same principle applies to the picture as detailed above.

2. The facts about this Question.

Does God really have your best interests at heart? The Serpent said to the woman, "Did God really say...?"
The result there we all know what happens.

It is built in humans that the language of the heart is mistrust. Somebody hurts us then we stop trusting everybody, we put up these barriers so we never trust anyone again. Now that in itself is fair enough but do you do that with The Bible?
You don't trust other people because you are scared they might hurt you. However, here comes a guy who gets hurt, mocked, beaten and bashed up. He doesn't dish out pain, he receives pain. Would you trust somebody like that? How can you not?

Romans 1:18-19
New International Version (NIV)

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

The wicked people suppress the truth by saying that none of it ever happened. They say it is all a lie, a conspiracy theory. Yet The Bible clearly says that the word became flesh.

John 1:14
New International Version (NIV)
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

You cannot deny a man's existence who lived The Word. It is living proof. There are many eyewitness accounts and they were all told and written down. Then they were passed onto the whole world and then down from generation to generation.

To sum it all up. The problem isn't the lack of evidence, it is what we do with that evidence that is given to us.

Tistuff I don't want you to take it the wrong way but it hurts my brain trying to understand when you type. Feels like I am debating some 3rd grader. Can you at least get chat gpt to translate whatever you are trying to communicate more succinctly?

This post was edited by addone on Mar 23 2026 04:06am

I can just not going to waste reading walls of text what can be summerised in a paragraph.

You copy pasted it and don't know what it even says so summarizing is difficult feat. Any time I use a quote from elsewhere I can summarize and or expand on it because I am about communicating and finding the truth you are here to only preach and not be open to truth or be potentially wrong.

I ask for a simple summary and you are being a dick on purpose bambarding me with walls of text hoping to waste my time. Shame on you call yourself a Christian.

ill start typing slower

1. Charles Darwin and the theory of 'evolution- gets a pass because he didnt call it fact
2.haeckels embryo drawings- 1874- early detected fraud- mass reprinted in textbooks as "proof" for 'evolution. 'atheists "the super logic minds" never did chit to challenge this. when do 'atheists actually become "scientific" as opposed to just "agenda" based liars
3rd piltdown man 1912- 'atheists hold themselves on high claiming to be the greatest critical thinkers that ever graced the world- longest running fraud in the history of modern science. the real mystery is how these clowns ever became the face of modern science?
4th nebraska man 1922- a master work of 'atheist imagination figuring out stuff........
5th whale evolution. incomplete fossils are the best kind of fossils. in fact the worse condition a fossil is in the better it proves 'evolution for some reason? as we will see more of this 'atheist magic in later posts
6th junk DNA should of been the end of atheism. but imaginations and delusions are not defeated by things like facts
7. Harlen Bretz- dont bring science we dont like.

8.Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy "missing link"

last entry of the series. if i was to name this series i think i would name it 'atheists gone wild. one can only imagine what it takes to kick in the imagination. bunch of 'atheists all partied up running around in their underwear hooping and hollering about monkeys changing into stuff making all kinds of drawings with their tongues sticking out

Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy is supposed to be the best of the best fossil evidence of a missing link.
when in fact its just the latest scam. what is really disturbing about it is all those 'atheists that appoint themselves the greatest thinkers of all time never call these people out for their frauds. making the institution of science at times a laughing stock.

this next video is based in part on a book called "contested bones" challenges the interpretation 'atheist 'evolutionists have of the fossil record.
@ 36:24 marketing of lucy. the hadar dig was a mixed bone bed of human and ape bones. having 'lucy living with humans is a problem.
@ 37:02 all bones were now classified as one species. the bigger human bones were "male" and the smaller ape bones were "female" (sexual dimorphism used for size explanation)
Review of "Contested Bones" (Part 6 - Chapter 6 "Australopithecus afarensis") 3-10-2018 by Paul Giem


do you remember the topic of of whale evolution? were the 'scientist found a fossil that was missing parts so he just up and decided what to draw in?
same thing here. if you do this long enough (reviewing "missing link fossils") you will find one thing in common. the "missing link fossils are in really chit shape. and thats how the magic happens. the 'inference kicks in..........aka imagination ........ and you can pump out a monkey man
now
i will post a picture of Australopithecus afarensis (lucy) fossil. notice its missing face,hands,feet.

they would brag about how great of a fossil it was. no face no hands no feet. when it was re-constructed they gave it face of choice, human hands and human feet. .lol well isnt that conveinient

ok how did they decide to give it human feet?
the parts of the fossil that are there are ape. the parts of the fossil that are not there are human?
a person doesnt have to be a scientist to figure out that sounds like bullchit

how did it get reconstructed to be a human hip? whats the takeaway? surprise, poor fossil condition.
so yea? is the mocking warranted? unbelievable what can pass as science
"Fixing" Lucy Fossil with a Power Saw - Dr. David Menton (480p)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeO0JlZsXio
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evolution (macro) is unique among the institution of science. never has there ever been so much fraud and embarrassment over any other theory. why do you think that is? one would think with all the fraud and chit science that goes with the belief of macro evolution that it would challenge their faith. but they waver not as they mock and scoff and call christians "fairy tale people"

her feet. how did she end up with human feet?

lucy/Australopithecus afarensis
a fossil with out a face, hands or feet.
about a thousand miles away in the same layer is a track of human footprints (Laetoli footprints) and since we just know humans were not around then...
lol they just up and assigned those foot prints to the lucy fossil. lol just hard to believe how much bullchitery thats allowed to go on.

her hands? when she was first reconstructed she was also given human hands. later that was quietly changed to ape hands.

so there you have the story of lucy. hip bone all jacked up, just whip out a power saw and reconstruct it into a human hip.
feet missing, just write in what ever gets a good story. thats science folks................ 'atheist style

Oh what I copy pasted from the internet was written long before AI became what it is today.

The second article was written by me, every single word. It was based off a sermon. So before you babble on about AI, just don't. Everything written was more than a decade ago and yet it still holds up to this very day.

Have you ever wondered How a Good God could allow suffering? I wrote that up as well. Here, give it a read would you?

All throughout The Bible people have asked God why they need to suffer or how much longer they need to suffer.

Psalm 6:3 NIV
My soul is in anguish. How long, O LORD, how long?

Job 2:13 NIV
Then they sat on the ground with him for seven days and seven nights. No one said a word to him, because they saw how great his suffering was.

Now most people, if not all, should know the story with Job. Job's friends did the best thing they could have by not saying a single word to him. Just when you thought that Job couldn't suffer any more than he already had, his friends start ripping into him.

Some people write down songs about their suffering and anguish. One well known song is titled "Everybody Hurts" by R.E.M. You are not alone in suffering because everybody suffers at one point or another. We each have our own individual story about how we have suffered.
Brooke Faser C.S. Lewis song
"If I find in myself desires nothing in this world can satisfy,
I can only conclude that I was not made for here"

Now we like to ask why because that is our natural reaction, is to ask why. Now why is it that we feel that it's wrong?

Why is it that we feel that suffering is wrong? Everyone has that spark inside them that says "Hang on, someone should be in charge around here." That, of course is referring to God. Why do we assume that this world should be perfect?

To answer this we need to go back to the Fall once again.
Genesis 3:17 NIV
To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.

God cursed the man, the woman and the ground. The story in a nutshell goes like this. God creates the perfect world and puts man in charge of it to look after it. With the fall, God curses the man and woman but if he doesn't curse the ground then the ground would rule over man so he also curses the ground so man can still rule over the ground, if that makes sense.

The mistake that Adam made is the same mistake that everybody from then on has made, not trusting God and wanting to live in a world without God as a part of their life. We have allasked for a world without God. We see the result of that in the suffering. Our time here on Earth when we want to live in a world without God, is just a taste in eternity without God. Now you do not want that full scale in Eternity because that would be Hell.

Remember when God made the world he saw that it was very good as it says in Genesis.
Genesis 1:31 NIV
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

The issue with suffering has been dealt with anyway as you will see.
Romans 8:18 NIV
I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.
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Now what is our solution to suffering? Do we want to wish it all away in a heartbeat? Do we want this to happen...?

John 11:35:43
Jesus wept. So the Jews were saying, “See how He loved him!” But some of them said, “Could not this man, who opened the eyes of the blind man, [a]have kept this man also from dying?”

So Jesus, again being deeply moved within, *came to the tomb. Now it was a cave, and a stone was lying against it. Jesus *said, “Remove the stone.” Martha, the sister of the deceased, *said to Him, “Lord, by this time there will be a stench, for he has been dead four days.” Jesus *said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?” So they removed the stone. Then Jesus raised His eyes, and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. I knew that You always hear Me; but because of the [c]people standing around I said it, so that they may believe that You sent Me.” When He had said these things, He cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth.”

First and foremost Jesus wept. That is very significant because it shows that Jesus was not an unmoveable person. It also showed that he cares about our suffering. He is going to do something about it. Now at the end of that story Jesus calls out "Lazarus, come forth!" Lazarus is resurrected. So that problem of suffering is solved right? That is half true. Lazarus did come out alive but he would die once again. He would have to die again as he certainly isn't here today. In the end, death will take us all one day. Each of us carries death within oneself. The problem is much deeper than we imagine. If we realize that the problem is much larger than what we see, then that means that the solution to our problem is also much deeper than we can imagine.

There is a temporary solution and there is an eternal solution. Jesus came down to be a part of suffering and saw it all. He takes all our suffering and nails it to the cross. It MUST happen in Jesus' words.

Luke 9:22 NIV
And he said, "The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life."

Luke 22:44 NIV
And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.
Jesus was in anguish because he knew that shortly he was going to be captured by the Romans. He suffered anguish and he prayed earnestly to God.

1 Peter 3:18 NIV
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit.
Jesus not only suffered but he suffered more than anybody ever has. He had to reach so far down, more than anybody else, to grab all the suffering that everybody has and will ever endure and nail it to the cross.

In the end though, the suffering will stop. We will see a new world.
Revelation 21:4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.

We have received our eternal solution to suffering. As for what has happened recently, well let's list a few things that has happened which has caused suffering.

1945 WWII, the atomic bomb dropping on Hiroshima.
1972 Napalm Girl (easy google image if you want to see it)
2001 Terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre.
2011 Floods in Australia
2012 Connecticut School Shooting

Now how do we explain all of those and answer to all of them? If we knew then we'd be God. That was the problem to begin with, us wanting to be God. We don't know so therefore we aren't God. What God did, he treated our suffering seriously by entering it here on Earth and dealt with it once and for all.
The permanent solution, the eternal solution is taken care of. That is the one that matters. As for the here and now, we don't know what the plan is for us but God has a plan, that you can be sure of.

We have many documents that speak to our Historical Jesus. Nobody today will be able to talk to any of these people that have left these records in person. That isn't stopping addone from asking for physical proof and the ability to communicate with Jesus in person from this time. Which is not only ridiculous, but also not what is spoken from God.

Hebrews 11:1: "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen".

Proverbs 3:5-6: "Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths".

Mark 11:22-23: "Have faith in God," Jesus answered. "Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt... it will be done".

Very simple, have (faith) and (trust) in the lord.

John 10:4: "...the sheep follow him because they know his voice."

John 10 talks very clearly about the relationship between God and his children. A promise that he hears you and sees you, and vice versa for those that walk in good faith. You demand something outside of that experience and it's something I can't provide you. So choosing to make a jsp thread simply to troll and mock me for my belief is a very silly thing and just isn't genuine human interaction. Somebody believing in something different than me does not cause me to gain a hateful heart towards them. Instead I support free will and trust God with their soul that he ensures they hear of his name and they freely choose to follow him. It can't be forced and it won't be through physical fleshly means demanded by an unbeliever.

I guess you dont know what doubting Thomas got to touch

John 20:24-29.

During a time Jesus physically walked the Earth.

Today, Jesus currently doesn't walk the Earth.

Your point? You and addone will not currently trying have Jesus in the flesh. You will see Jesus one day. It will either be your lifetime here on Earth or it will be after.

From Jesus to Thomas, "Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed".

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Mar 23 2026 07:12am

Doubting Thomas touches the incorporeal body of the resurrected god in your belief system. He is the only person who was permitted such an honor, specifically because of his refusal to believe without sufficient proof. If one of the apostles can hold this stance, why are you judging others for also holding it?