In any natural disaster like this...the govt. chooses whether to label it AS a disaster. If they do so, the US govt. sends help. Case closed.
Trump did, FEMA and etc., sent help. There was no need for anyone to convince Trump to do this...he just did it.

Granted, in a lot of things, Trump doesn't "present himself" well. But he is trying to do exactly what he promised. If he wasn't getting sued left and right for TRYING to do what he promised, he'd be hailed as a great president.

To be honest Trump hasn't been "hiding" at all. If he was, the libs and the dems wouldn't NEED to make all the noise they are making. There wouldn't NEED to be all the lawsuits.
Trump hiding...dun think so.

Obama went through nine real scandals with the press silent. Your rage is misdirected.

He was pretty scandal free by presidential standards. The biggest was the guns thing Eric Holder did....fast and furious.

The biggest one, Benghazi, wasnt even a real scandal, and the press covered it nonstop for the GOP.

I dont know why you guys hate the press, without them Trump would have never been POTUS. I'm pretty sure he must own CNN at this point as much as they focus on him and give him passes where it counts to focus on pussy grabbing instead of conflicts of interest, etc.

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U.S. second-quarter GDP growth revised up to 3.0 percent

strong business investment, robust consumer spending
momentum sustained during start of the third quarter
under budget, ahead of schedule

despite all the folly #resist forces by the anti-American lefties, media, democratic socialists, commies and rinos,

despite all the foolish, slanted predictions by "experts" that a Trump Win in November would have immediately crashed the economy,

despite all that, the businesses and consumers who believe in America and President Trump remain steadfast in their optimism of MAGA.

[√] winning [ ] not winning

Yes. You still seem to be missing the point. I'm not arguing that he manufactured a crisis. I'm saying that he's using that crisis as cover to push through immoral policies.



My rage would be misdirected if it were toward someone no longer in office. There was plenty of shit that happened during Obama's presidency that I disagreed with. Some of it very openly here on these forums. Drone policy is a good example. But Trump is in the white house now and these things are now his responsibility, not Obama's. My rage is directed practically at the current issues.

I liked the statement of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights released in a news conference today. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-un-rights-idUSKCN1BA1B6

He reflects on freedom of press being a corner stone in the constitution, Trump replying to Charlottesville and Arpaio referring at one stage to the open-air prison that he set up as a concentration camp, he later recanted said it was a joke.
All of it is raising concerns about Trump's approach increasing death threats and violence. He even goes a bit further with the question: "I have to ask the question is this not an incitement for others to attack journalists?”

The taboo breaker Donald Trump speeding his bus downhill of the mountain of human rights, carrying US as its passengers bracing for impact.

He has an absurd take on the situation. Calling horribly biased news orgs "fake" and criticizing them is not an incitement to violence or an infringement on freedom of the press.
There is a long standing tradition of presidents criticizing horrible press, with Thomas Jefferson being among the most notable.

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.”
“I deplore with you the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed, and the malignity, the vulgarity, and mendacious spirit of those who write for them.”
“From forty years' experience of the wretched guess-work of the newspapers of what is not done in open daylight, and of their falsehood even as to that, I rarely think them worth reading, and almost never worth notice.”

false equivalency 101

"The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure." --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823. ME 15:491

You are just supporting my position that one can support and value freedom of the press and still harshly criticize bad actors within the press.



The equivalency and similarities are painfully obvious to all but the most affected victims of TDS.

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