Quote (ampoo @ 27 Aug 2017 19:41)
i dont know where you have that from, but this is not true
and while there is a tendency of the political left to try and persecute people whose opinions they dont like, the only thing that is really limited is when it comes to the nazi regime
it does not matter how different the american and german states are, we are talking about the most basic police work here
everyone in public spaces has to deal with the possibility that the police might approach you and there is no reason for fear if you are not a criminal or illegal migrant, its that simple
~a month ago i was stopped by the police at night, random control, i showed my license and registration and continued
maybe they stopped me because of my appearance, who knows, but as it happens i am not offended when i have to show my papers
we have already concluded what a horrible human being this so called "sheriff" is, however telling your officers to look for suspicious people of a certain group is perfectly acceptable
if simply doing your job and adapting to reality is not acceptable anymore then there is no need for a police
It's possible that the German law differs a bit from ours. From 14 years old we are mandatory to have identification documents with us, yet the police is not allowed to randomly check one's ID, without a valid reason. That actually seems to reflect laws in the US (/e: carrying ID might not be mandatory). The sheriff went a bit further than these random checks though. With US police accountability already being low, giving him a pardon sends out the wrong message in the time we live in.
As for freedom of speech: I've been thinking the same, yet did not research enough to make any statements. I guess I'll just test it by posting:
The difference in freedom of speech between the US and The Netherlands, from what I'm noticing, is:
- We can curse on the television
- We have fewer ppl claiming to be fired over their speech (might have to do that we have more rights as an employee)
- We don't allow neo nazi podiums or would not allow a podium for the KKK. (Sweden is different, they would allow them, yet there is no movement large enough to use a podium)
- We've had Geert Wilders prosecuted for racial hateful speech, he ended up being convicted and fined with a few k's. And that was it. (/e: In the mean time we protect his speech paid by taxes, he needs quite a few guards 24/7)
So basically what it seems like from my perspective when US citizens make strong statements on freedom of speech: They are effectively only fighting for allowing the KKK and neo-nazies to unite.
/e @Skinned: What did you want to say in Germany, but "couldn't" ?
This post was edited by Knaapie on Aug 28 2017 08:32am
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