History isn't an excuse, no matter how inconvienent it is for ideology. There are a ton of factors and rich benefactors are one.

Yeah no they didn't. I was there this summer and there's a whole lot of history there that isn't mentioned much in Western history books. Syngman Rhee died in exile for a reason ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngman_Rhee ). Rhee's rule was incredibly authoritarian, possibly even more so than Kim Il-Sung. The USA has a lot of South Korean blood on their hands, as do the Russians with North Korean blood. Koreans weren't all that keen on the division, the USSR and USA were. Kim Il-Sung isn't even seen with much disgust in South Korea. The Jeju Uprising and the Mungyeong Massacre are not tiny events in history, even though you might have never heard of them.

first, you said the stream of illegal immigration is caused by colonialism and capitalism. when i refute your points, you suddenly shift the supposed cause from colonialism and capitalism to recent wars.

Everything he described was the result of colonialism and capitalism.

See the "compliant to Western businesses"

I think its funny when people complain about companies/capitalism but theyve never owned one. Youre worthless, just go away.

They are leaving the middle east cause it's pretty much a shit hole.
Women are 2nd class citizens, they breed fanatics like no ones business.

If you don't have millions you just don't count. Except for the UAE where if you have millions, you do count.

Its okay, the adults are talking. You can go play in the corner.

so you say that capitalism is to blame for wars waged during the cold war era, but not communism?! imho both are to blame equally.

also, if colonialism and wars were to blame exclusively for the misery of third world countries, why isnt ethiopia better off? the country only spent a minimal amount of years under foreign rule, there were no foreign wars on its territory, and it was an afterthought for global corporations for the longest time. nonetheless, the economic situation in ethiopia was not and still is not significantly better than in other african countries.

dont get me wrong, I certainly wont deny that wars and social instability are very harmful for economic and social development, and I also certainly wont deny that colonialism and the effects of capitalism sometimes cause these things - but I strongly refute the claim that these things are the sole or even the major factor behind certain countries' lacking development/poverty/misery.


countries like singapore, south korea, taiwan, vietnam or chile prove that countries can recover quite rapidly from the adverse effects of capitalism and "western business interests" - but only if they begin to practice good governance and have manageable demographics!

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 27 2017 04:51pm

Lol...