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Aug 27 2017 12:32pm
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One individual breaking and applying the law how he feels like is not being a nation of laws. You might not know what this means being a European and not having the same degree of rights as us. When I lived in Germany I could smoke in the supermarket but not say what I wanted to. Our state is less perverse by design.


you mean the state where its ok to show someone's head being ripped off, including blood and gore, to little kids, but god forbid someone gets to see a short glimpse of a nipple on tv? you mean the state that has the highest number of prison inmates per capita in the entire world, and the highest number of gun deaths per capita in the civilized world? you mean the state where some retard can give his cat a grisly death in his microwave oven and then successfully sue the manufacturer for millions? you mean the state that spends more on military than the next 9 biggest military spenders combined, yet has dozens of millions of citizens on food stamps?

dont get me wrong, I like the united states, I really do.... but the country is totally fucked up. just in a different way than europe...

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Aug 27 2017 12:41pm
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One individual breaking and applying the law how he feels like is not being a nation of laws. You might not know what this means being a European and not having the same degree of rights as us. When I lived in Germany I could smoke in the supermarket but not say what I wanted to. Our state is less perverse by design.


i dont know where you have that from, but this is not true
and while there is a tendency of the political left to try and persecute people whose opinions they dont like, the only thing that is really limited is when it comes to the nazi regime

it does not matter how different the american and german states are, we are talking about the most basic police work here

everyone in public spaces has to deal with the possibility that the police might approach you and there is no reason for fear if you are not a criminal or illegal migrant, its that simple
~a month ago i was stopped by the police at night, random control, i showed my license and registration and continued
maybe they stopped me because of my appearance, who knows, but as it happens i am not offended when i have to show my papers

we have already concluded what a horrible human being this so called "sheriff" is, however telling your officers to look for suspicious people of a certain group is perfectly acceptable
if simply doing your job and adapting to reality is not acceptable anymore then there is no need for a police
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Aug 27 2017 12:56pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 27 2017 01:32pm)
you mean the state where its ok to show someone's head being ripped off, including blood and gore, to little kids, but god forbid someone gets to see a short glimpse of a nipple on tv? you mean the state that has the highest number of prison inmates per capita in the entire world, and the highest number of gun deaths per capita in the civilized world? you mean the state where some retard can give his cat a grisly death in his microwave oven and then successfully sue the manufacturer for millions? you mean the state that spends more on military than the next 9 biggest military spenders combined, yet has dozens of millions of citizens on food stamps?

dont get me wrong, I like the united states, I really do.... but the country is totally fucked up. just in a different way than europe...


Yes, we are capitalist and they are socialist. All those things you listed seem to be the effects of free markets.....you can't go and buy an AK47 in Europe, I can just legally call a friend who has one, give him 800, and I have one, and we wouldnt have broken the law.

The nipple thing is Christian influence, I dont know what to tell you about that except it is a value thing.

Now send me the link where the person microwaved a cat and successfully sued the manufacturer, because citation is needed on that one.
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Aug 27 2017 01:01pm
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Yes, we are capitalist and they are socialist. All those things you listed seem to be the effects of free markets.....you can't go and buy an AK47 in Europe, I can just legally call a friend who has one, give him 800, and I have one, and we wouldnt have broken the law.

The nipple thing is Christian influence, I dont know what to tell you about that except it is a value thing.

Now send me the link where the person microwaved a cat and successfully sued the manufacturer, because citation is needed on that one.


Were both capitalist. Europe is just big-government & high taxes.

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Were both capitalist. Europe is just big-government & high taxes.


Most of Europe is democratic socialism. Juat ask them or google it.

And everything that is happening as far as illegal immigration from the brown world to the white world has been a result of colonialism and then capitalism. Conquering and opening markets have made some places so undesirable that people are leaving, a d theyre going to live with the people who took and have their stuff. White man makes laws that in reality aren't true (like prohibition for example) and are like "why dont these savages obey us like theyre supposed to". They are at war with causation. You can't change natural laws with positive laws lol. You guys are just equivocating the two and wondering why your worldview is failing and your laws arent working. Thomas Aquinas famously said a law has to be true to be good.
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Most of Europe is democratic socialism. Juat ask them or google it.

And everything that is happening as far asillegal immigration from the brown world to the white world has been a result of colonialism and then capitalism. Conquering and opening markets have made some places so undesirable that people are leaving, a d theyre going to live with the people who took and have their stuff.White man makes laws that in reality aren't true (like prohibition for example) and are like "why dont these savages obey us like theyre supposed to". They are at war with causation. You can't change natural laws with positive laws lol. You guys are just equivocating the two and wondering why your worldview is failing and your laws arent working. Thomas Aquinas famously said a law has to be true to be good.


this is just wrong.

in 1960, singapore and ghana had the same HDI, they were equally poor as fuck. why did they develop so radically different from one another over the following decades? why is china so much more successful than india? why does the little 5 million nation singapore have more nobel prize laureates in the scientific categories than the entire muslim world with its 1.6 billion people, among them several who are so rich from their oil they dont even know where to spend it?

why is south america, which suffered from at least as much economic exploitation and political destabilization by the USA/europe as africa, on a much higher level and more promising path than subsaharan africa? why is the overpopulated, piss poor, chaotic and "brown" india a stable democracy while neighboring pakistan, with which it shares a common history and culture, is a military dictatorship?

all those differences you can observe between different countries and between different regions of the world are not about brown vs white vs yellow, they are about two things and two things only: good governance and population control. the muslim and african cultures are particularly opposed to good governance practices, so its those two regions which are poorest and least stable.

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this is just wrong.

in 1960, singapore and ghana had the same HDI, they were equally poor as fuck. why did they develop so radically different from one another over the following decades? why is china so much more successful than india? why does the little 5 million nation singapore have more nobel prize laureates in the scientific categories than the entire muslim world with its 1.6 billion people, among them several who are so rich from their oil they dont even know where to spend it?

why is south america, which suffered from at least as much economic exploitation and political destabilization by the USA/europe as africa, on a much higher level and more promising path than subsaharan africa? why is the overpopulated, piss poor, chaotic and "brown" india a stable democracy while neighboring pakistan, with which it shares a common history and culture, is a military dictatorship?

all those differences you can observe between different countries and between different regions of the world are not about brown vs white vs yellow, they are about two things and two things only: good governance and population control. the muslim and african cultures are particularly opposed to good governance practices, so its those two regions which are poorest and least stable.


So the flood of immigrants into Europe has nothing to do with another US / Russia proxy war in the middle east? Artifical political lines imposes on ancient tribal cultures didn't inherently have a destabilizing effect? Natural leaders removed and replaced with those more compliant to western business interests had no effect? I just don't believe it.
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Aug 27 2017 02:57pm
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So the flood of immigrants into Europe has nothing to do with another US / Russia proxy war in the middle east? Artifical political lines imposes on ancient tribal cultures didn't inherently have a destabilizing effect? Natural leaders removed and replaced with those more compliant to western business interests had no effect? I just don't believe it.


to a large degree it has not, most so called refugees are not even from the warzones

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 27 Aug 2017 22:16)
this is just wrong.

in 1960, singapore and ghana had the same HDI, they were equally poor as fuck. why did they develop so radically different from one another over the following decades? why is china so much more successful than india? why does the little 5 million nation singapore have more nobel prize laureates in the scientific categories than the entire muslim world with its 1.6 billion people, among them several who are so rich from their oil they dont even know where to spend it?

why is south america, which suffered from at least as much economic exploitation and political destabilization by the USA/europe as africa, on a much higher level and more promising path than subsaharan africa? why is the overpopulated, piss poor, chaotic and "brown" india a stable democracy while neighboring pakistan, with which it shares a common history and culture, is a military dictatorship?

all those differences you can observe between different countries and between different regions of the world are not about brown vs white vs yellow, they are about two things and two things only: good governance and population control. the muslim and african cultures are particularly opposed to good governance practices, so its those two regions which are poorest and least stable.


another good example would be south korea
piss poor, ravaged in the second world war and directly after that in the korean war and just look at what they have become

these people were busy working instead of reading a medieval fantasy book
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Aug 27 2017 02:59pm
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to a large degree it has not, most so called refugees are not even from the warzones



another good example would be south korea
piss poor, ravaged in the second world war and directly after that in the korean war and just look at what they have become

these people were busy working instead of reading a medieval fantasy book


North Korea v. South Korea is a other proxy war. The DMZ is from the Cold War that never ended.

The US Armed Forces are literally guarding it. Taiwan as well.

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North Korea v. South Korea is a other proxy war. The DMZ is from the Cold War that never ended.

The US Armed Forces are literally guarding it. Taiwan as well.


it was and afterwards the people of south korea took their fate into their own hands

you find an excuse for literally everthing
every country is only as good as its people, its that simple

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