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Oct 20 2016 05:53pm
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Hillary finn'a get us all kilt.

http://libertynews.com/2016/10/pentagon-officials-furious-after-clinton-announces-us-response-time-for-nuclear-launch-during-debate/



Some of us have been saying she's unfit to have access to classified information. Some of us are unfortunately correct.


I WANT MADONNA ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY FOR DISCUSSING CLASSIFIED SECRETS!
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Oct 20 2016 05:55pm
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I WANT MADONNA ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY FOR DISCUSSING CLASSIFIED SECRETS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHHUhcV2eVY


Don't you have some photos to be coming up with?
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Oct 20 2016 06:02pm
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Don't you have some photos to be coming up with?


your whole understanding of the nature of reality is whether geocentricity can provide a picture? So really that says your whole belief in ball earth is because they provided you some pixels for your fantasies.

The fact is you can't explain ball earth without explaining gravity and even your greatest AstroPriest doesn't know what it is.




What is gravity? NDT - "UM IDK" :cry:

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Oct 20 2016 06:03pm
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2000 election: Al Gore (D) - Refuses to concede election until 'it is ensured all votes, by that I mean votes that will get me into a winning tally, are counted, cuz for my voters, they got screwed over. Ignore all the other ones that didn't get counted for W they had their shot at voting'
2000 interview: Senator-elect (C)linton (D) - The Electoral College is anachronistic cuz its 200 years old and "I hope no one is ever in doubt again about whether their vote counts."
2002 fundraiser: Senator (C)linton (D) - 'Bush was selected not elected"
2004 election: John Kerry (D) - thinks Bush rigged Ohio, has nightmares about this for years. Democrats hold out until 2005 to officialyl confirm a W re-election.
2016 primaries: Bernie Sanders (I running for D) - "the system is rigged"

2016 election: Democrats - "There is no such thing as rigging elections"


Pretty fair points.

The Supreme Court selected our president in 2000. If there would have been a Liberal majority on the court, they probably would have ruled that it was constitutional in that case to use different counting standards in different counties, and Gore likely had more votes in Florida. That's not rigging, though, that's a partisan SCOTUS decision. All of that aside, he had more popular votes, and that's undisputed.

The 2016 primaries were "rigged", even though Hillary Clinton did indeed receive more votes. Wikileaks proved collusion between the Clinton campaign and the DNC, but whether that affected the end result of the election is unknown (HRC very likely would have won, but the principle of it all still should matter to us).

There is such a thing as "rigging" an election, but do you think it is going to happen across all or most of the 50 states, including Red states with Red Governors election officers, this election in order to prevent Trump from going to the White House?

What if Clinton beats Trump by 10 million votes and 7 to 8% of the popular vote? Do you think it would be rigged enough to say it changed the outcome of the election?

Just a point of order, the media being on the side of Clinton doesn't mean the election is rigged. An election being rigged means voter fraud on massive scales, vote manipulation, or something along those lines. My guess is that Trump is going to lose by a big enough margin that not even rigging in some counties of some states (which I doubt will even happen) will be enough to change the outcome
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Oct 20 2016 06:26pm
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your whole understanding of the nature of reality is whether geocentricity can provide a picture? So really that says your whole belief in ball earth is because they provided you some pixels for your fantasies.

The fact is you can't explain ball earth without explaining gravity and even your greatest AstroPriest doesn't know what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efh4bu4rcbs


What is gravity? NDT - "UM IDK" :cry:


No, not my whole understanding. This is simply the most basic element. The easiest proof. Show me a flat Earth. This should be a walk in the park. If the Earth is flat, an object 120 km over the surface should be visible 10000 km away at about 7/10 of 1 degree angle. So floating a weather balloon should be able to get you photos that include a 20000 km diameter circle - enough to fit all of North & South America, Europe, Asia Africa and Australia all in 1 shot. Hop to it.

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Pretty fair points.

The Supreme Court selected our president in 2000. If there would have been a Liberal majority on the court, they probably would have ruled that it was constitutional in that case to use different counting standards in different counties, and Gore likely had more votes in Florida. That's not rigging, though, that's a partisan SCOTUS decision. All of that aside, he had more popular votes, and that's undisputed.

The 2016 primaries were "rigged", even though Hillary Clinton did indeed receive more votes. Wikileaks proved collusion between the Clinton campaign and the DNC, but whether that affected the end result of the election is unknown (HRC very likely would have won, but the principle of it all still should matter to us).

There is such a thing as "rigging" an election, but do you think it is going to happen across all or most of the 50 states, including Red states with Red Governors election officers, this election in order to prevent Trump from going to the White House?

What if Clinton beats Trump by 10 million votes and 7 to 8% of the popular vote? Do you think it would be rigged enough to say it changed the outcome of the election?

Just a point of order, the media being on the side of Clinton doesn't mean the election is rigged. An election being rigged means voter fraud on massive scales, vote manipulation, or something along those lines. My guess is that Trump is going to lose by a big enough margin that not even rigging in some counties of some states (which I doubt will even happen) will be enough to change the outcome

The US republic does not elect its president via popular vote.
A lot of the GOP elite and leadership do nothings are still and will forever be mad Trump got the nod via lots of votes of the small people (who the democrats refer to as all dumb uneducated racist homophobic trailer park privileged cis white male hicks - even if they're highly educated gainfully employed gay or lesbian minorities)
A 10% margin is fairly indisputable although it would be interesting if it still resulted in a EC loss

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Oct 20 2016 06:38pm
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No, not my whole understanding. This is simply the most basic element. The easiest proof. Show me a flat Earth. This should be a walk in the park. If the Earth is flat, an object 120 km over the surface should be visible 10000 km away at about 7/10 of 1 degree angle. So floating a weather balloon should be able to get you photos that include a 20000 km diameter circle - enough to fit all of North & South America, Europe, Asia Africa and Australia all in 1 shot. Hop to it.


we've never been higher than the Van Allen Belt - so complete pictures of earth are impossible - but even still if photos from balloons 120 miles up show a complete flat surface - that's pretty revealing - that you think if you double the distance it can show 25,000 mile circumference of the complete ball is pretty stupid.

You obviously know nothing about how lenses and perspective works.

there's also this map from 1000 years ago:




I'd also ask you if you think there really a ball in the sky that NYC is built around or is this just a trick of using a very wide angle lense?



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Oct 20 2016 06:49pm
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we've never been higher than the Van Allen Belt - so complete pictures of earth are impossible - but even still if photos from balloons 120 miles up show a complete flat surface - that's pretty revealing - that you think if you double the distance it can show 25,000 mile circumference of the complete ball is pretty stupid.

You obviously know nothing about how lenses and perspective works.

there also this map from 1000 years ago:

http://antediluvialogy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/was-this-world-map-made-10-centuries-ago.jpg


I'd also ask you if you think there really a ball in the sky that NYC is built around or is this just a trick of using a very wide angle lense?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7b/14/7b/7b147b380b3b48c98215862582472d55.jpg


@ bold: then it's a good thing I never said anything of the sort.

Educate yourself:



e/ so you can get it in high res: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Earth_orbit

The Van Allen belts are 1000+ km over the surface. You can get plenty of space to get a fish eye lens wide angle shot of the whole flat Earth.

Maps are worthless for our proofs. I want a photo.

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Oct 20 2016 06:52pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Oct 20 2016 11:35pm)
So in other words he was selling the fantasy, and now he can't believe kiddies bought the space fantasy (NOT HIS FANTASY SHOW - THE FANTASY OF SPACE) hook line and sinker.

Ever seen that scene in Blade Runner where Deckard runs a Voight-Kampf Test test on Rachel, why does he do it?

So the President of the Tyrell Corp. says "Indulge me - i want to see a negative before i provide you with a positive"


Your proof of a positive is another made up scenario where future police kill androids who leave space to go to earth where the earth is covered in nuclear radiation from an atomic war?

Sounds legit.
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Oct 20 2016 07:06pm
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Your proof of a positive is another made up scenario where future police kill androids who leave space to go to earth where the earth is covered in nuclear radiation from an atomic war?

Sounds legit.


There was atomic war in Blade Runner? I think it was just the result of society crumbling from idiots like yourself. That sounds more legit. Also, i dont think you know what proof means because i wasn't using it as proof, but kinda revealing that you think a fantasy film of a hypothetic future is absolute proof, maybe of your buffoonery i suppose.
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