The goal is preventing terrorist leadership from going unchecked and finding safe haven. I could care less about what happens to that opium infested hell hole.

Playing chicken with an oil tanker is cool to do, right? ^^

If both ships follow normal sea traffic rules, these things don't happen. So there seems to be a narrative to one of them, or both not following normal procedures. Perhaps this needs a topic to generate conspiracy theories. For now I'm believing it to be the Naval attitude of: "we brake for nobody".

well, ofc a lot of the shit that's going down in afghanistan is due to the mess the cia and the soviets have caused decades ago. but the shit has already hit the fan, now we have to deal with the fallout.


I gotta disagree with your point about "control the main border crossings and you're good". if taliban fighters can seep in across the wilderness in groups of 2 to a few dozens at once, you will still have to deal with them inside afghanistan. as long as they have space to back off, you wont get rid of this plague. their refuge is pakistan, but also tajikistan and turkmenistan. good luck getting those countries to effectively fight against the taliban. and pakistan is a 200 mil shithole with nukes and a sizable army. even the united states cant push them around just like that. to put real pressure on pakistan, the US would have to concentrate MASSIVE amounts of troops in front of their shore. risky, no guarantee for success, extremely costly, politically no longer feasible considering how tired the american public is of the ongoing wars.

so, if you dont get pakistan to commit fully to the fight against the taliban, they will have their refuge over there whenever you kick their asses in afghanistan. you cant prevent them from coming back. the afghan public apparently is either too weak to drive them away on their own, or there is too much support for a taliban rule inside the afghan people. either way, the issue isnt going away. therefore, the best we can do is a "damage control mode" in which we try to commit as few troops and resources as possible while keeping the taliban at bay, preventing afghanistan from again becoming a safe haven for islamistic terrorists of all kind. its not the 'win' everyone was hoping for, but deployment of 8-12k soldiers to afghanistan can be sustained permanently if necessary.


This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 22 2017 06:30pm

I can't remember where I read it, but it seems that this has happened like 4 times in 4 months.
The really weird part is, it always happens to US anti-ballistic missile ships.


On a side note, the US Navy might be thinking "we brake for nobody" with reference to military ships, but they wouldn't do it with civilian ships, unless they weren't carrying what they claimed to be carrying.
Like...trying to ship arms or nukes etc., in a tanker, for example.

President Trump calls out the vile, odious far lefty democrats/losers that make up the antfia group which covers their faces so they can commit violence behind a guise. a page out of the book of the horrid past done by notable democrats like their "conscience of the Senate" Senator Robert Byrd (D) who was in the kkk and was the mentor of Hillary Clinton (D)

This post was edited by excellence on Aug 22 2017 09:48pm

antiIIFFAAaaa

trump needs to give shoot to kill orders on all antifa members

This post was edited by Warlock316 on Aug 22 2017 10:38pm

He would be George Wallace squared lol.

The president focusing on the real issues.... like little dudes in skinny jeans. I guess if the success of the presidency hangs on appealing to young white suburban kids who post on The_Donald, he's doing a fine job.

his job as president involves caring for all aspects of peace for the american people. therefore, he has to deal with afghanistan, north korea, but also with interior threats to the inner security of the country. both the little dudes in skinny jeans from antifa and the violent racists are a threat to inner security. it is a step in the right direction that we finally have a president in trump who calls out the violent potential of radical lefties and of minority racist groups. unfortunately, he could be doing a better job when it comes to calling out white racists.