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Jul 6 2025 11:18pm
Israel is not committing genocide, and using that word to describe any war where civilians are killed cheapens its meaning.
If and when a real genocide happens, people won’t take it seriously anymore.


If you don't like that word because you think it's scale thing(?) we can call it "evil as fuck" instead. You should be able to call it something when a country murders 20,000 kids right? I mean Israels own former prime ministers call it a genocide so it has to be called something...
We can maybe come up with a new termonology together if you'd like. How about holocaust 2.0? Because water, electricity and food has been cut off right so it's like the people in Gaza is living in a giant camp right and IDF or "the guards" are shooting at people and kids who queue up too early for the little food that comes in, and the soldiers even admit they just fire live rounds into the masses as "crowd control". It's kinda fitting. But if you think it's not quite there yet we can call it holocaust 0.2 while we wait for the numbers to stack up? How many kids does it take for it to be a holocaust?




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Jul 6 2025 11:33pm
If you don't like that word because you think it's scale thing(?) we can call it "evil as fuck" instead. You should be able to call it something when a country murders 20,000 kids right? I mean Israels own former prime ministers call it a genocide so it has to be called something...
We can maybe come up with a new termonology together if you'd like. How about holocaust 2.0? Because water, electricity and food has been cut off right so it's like the people in Gaza is living in a giant camp right and IDF or "the guards" are shooting at people and kids who queue up too early for the little food that comes in, and the soldiers even admit they just fire live rounds into the masses as "crowd control". It's kinda fitting. But if you think it's not quite there yet we can call it holocaust 0.2 while we wait for the numbers to stack up? How many kids does it take for it to be a holocaust?


You can call it WAR anything else is Hamas propaganda

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Jul 6 2025 11:44pm
You can call it WAR anything else is Hamas propaganda


It has seized to be a war and is now what your former primer minister, defence minister, genocide scholars, UN, Amnesty international, International court of Justice, Several other countries call it: Genocide.


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Jul 7 2025 01:18am
It has seized to be a war and is now what your former primer minister, defence minister, genocide scholars, UN, Amnesty international, International court of Justice, Several other countries call it: Genocide.


Citing individual statements, even from a former prime minister, defense minister, or public figure, does not make something a genocide. Political opinions, even from high-ranking officials, are not legal determinations.

The UN, Amnesty, and the ICJ have not issued any conclusive legal ruling that Israel is committing genocide. What you are referring to are allegations, preliminary hearings, or opinions, not verdicts.

Even the ICJ, in its provisional ruling, did not determine that genocide is occurring. It simply ruled that the claim is not “manifestly without merit”, which is a very low legal threshold for continuing proceedings.

Calling it genocide because others say so does not make it fact. Genocide has a very specific legal definition, intent to destroy a group in whole or in part, and to date, no court of law has made that determination in Israel’s case.
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Jul 7 2025 01:23am
The end of Hamas is close:

Anti-Hamas gang leader Abu Shabab admits joining forces with Israeli army in Gaza




https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2025/07/06/anti-hamas-gang-leader-abu-shabab-admits-joining-forces-with-israeli-army-in-gaza/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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Jul 7 2025 02:31am
Citing individual statements, even from a former prime minister, defense minister, or public figure, does not make something a genocide. Political opinions, even from high-ranking officials, are not legal determinations.

The UN, Amnesty, and the ICJ have not issued any conclusive legal ruling that Israel is committing genocide. What you are referring to are allegations, preliminary hearings, or opinions, not verdicts.

Even the ICJ, in its provisional ruling, did not determine that genocide is occurring. It simply ruled that the claim is not “manifestly without merit”, which is a very low legal threshold for continuing proceedings.

Calling it genocide because others say so does not make it fact. Genocide has a very specific legal definition, intent to destroy a group in whole or in part, and to date, no court of law has made that determination in Israel’s case.



This is just out right silly.
When there's smoke there's fire. Waiting for a "verdict" while israel continues their atrocities is not a solution. Israel have high ranking officials calling palestinians "human animals" and settlers on the border already waiting to cross into gaza with government support. With an army that illegally wages war in foreign countries and illegally targets children, doctors and journalists. We do not need to wait for some "verdict" because there's only 1 perpetrator: Israel.
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Jul 7 2025 03:42am
This is just out right silly.
When there's smoke there's fire. Waiting for a "verdict" while israel continues their atrocities is not a solution. Israel have high ranking officials calling palestinians "human animals" and settlers on the border already waiting to cross into gaza with government support. With an army that illegally wages war in foreign countries and illegally targets children, doctors and journalists. We do not need to wait for some "verdict" because there's only 1 perpetrator: Israel.


Where is innocent until proven guilty
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Jul 7 2025 04:06am
As a jewish person ..Would it be ok to say death death to the nazi's? Or would you say that would be racist against all Germans? ............... ................. ................ hehe gotcha
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Jul 7 2025 04:09am
Where is innocent until proven guilty


Sure - i agree.
Stop killing, immediately.
Leave all the illegal settlements.
Let people return to their homes.
Allow in all other aid.
Turn on the water & electrictity.

Let Bibi appear before the ICJ with his generals and we can hold a trial to determine the illegalities and whether or not it's a genocide. (it is).

Kind of laughable that you want civil liberties and protection when you deny it to millions and millions of people.

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Jul 7 2025 05:14am
To be fair people want israel to stop committing a genocide.

I already wrote how and why people die in Gaza, but you just choose to continue to be ignorant, and lazy to read and see things as they are - for yourself.

If Israel wanted a genoicde; Gaza would be no more 30 years ago.

In this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Cyu0rV_LA - Mousa Abu Marzook, a BILLIONAIRE (from all the international aid you sent there) hamas official who lives in luxury in Doha tells with his own words that they dont care about civilians - the tunnels are for their fighters. They basically hiding behind their own citizens, storing, and shooting rockets from civilian buildings, taking control of every aid that comes in, shooting down anyone who takes the aid directly from the enemy - and guess what; they blame all of it on Israel because Isreal refuses to cease to exist.

Because that is what they want. The UN partition plan was clear about creating an Israeli and a Palestinian state. The Israelis accepted it, but the arabs attacked with 5 armies.
They lost, and got put at their place. This sounds like a FAFO to me.

And why again you're so against jews who have only 1 country in the world, whereas muslims have at least 50. And why again you trust degenerate murderers' statistics or anything they say? Murderers who feel entitled enough to massacre 1000+ civilians on a music festival. And dont dare saying such acts are justified, or similar to what Isreal did in any way shape or form.

Let me quote a post from one of my friends:

"Why are there no civilian bomb shelters in Gaza?

Why did thousands of Iranian mothers brandish their babies this week, costumed as suicide bombers, and swore their enthusiasm and their hope that the babies would die shaheeds?

We Westerners, of the Judeo-Christian culture, are ready to die to protect our kids. But we're the exception, not the rule.
In Middle Eastern and traditional societies, kids aren’t cherished—they’re expendable.

A few examples?
In Ethiopia kids eat last during famines.
In Yemen it's the 10yo and 8yo boys who shield Houthi frontlines, dying to deter airstrikes (2,000+ dead, UNICEF 2020). The 9yo girls are being married to the 30yo veteran mudjahideen who protect themselves.
In Sierra Leone it was the feared "Small Boys Units" : around 10,000 kids, 8–10, high on drugs and groomed to kill who led attacks, hacking limbs, absorbing bullets first.
During the Iran-Iraq War boys, aged 10 to 14, cleared minefields for Iran. They were given a key at school and promised it would open the doors to paradise for them.
In Syria ISIS uses kids as young as 7 as bombers, baiting enemy fire at checkpoints. Like HAmas in Gaza.
In Somalia Al-Shabaab’s 9-year-olds run suicide missions, their lives cheap in war.
And in Gaza, too. The kids are used as the first cannon fodder , without that the grown-ups find it problematic. On the contrary.

Gazan kids are the first expendable, and the most "valuable" victims for Hamas et alia. The UNRWA schools actually brainwashed them in WANTING to die while killing Jews.

We cherish childhood, so when these children die, we instinctively blame the shooter, even in self-defense, not the leaders or families who sent them to slaughter.

Thanks to the kids, Hamas gets triple bonus:
They protect their weapons caches, they protect their "better", more seasoned fighters, AND get Israel demonized because the Western mind can't comprehend the kids weren't super-protected, and so killing them "demonstrates" Israel's evil.

They're making us kill their own kids, and laugh at us because we care."

I'm a bit sad that every social media blocked the Oct. 7th contents (hamas' own footages), because there you could have seen with your own eyes what kind of people you support. You can say it does not started on Oct. 7th - sure it doesnt, Israel was rocketed daily for decades by that point. But you can say, Israel have the Iron Dome - sure, then it's okay to rocket them?! And also: if they just go and massacre random people on a music festival - how does that make their cause legitimate?! How can you even trust their numbers about dead children when they dont care at all about civilians on the surface - just for those who are willing to murder jews for the degenerate jihadi case of theirs.

The only thing Palestine should be free from is hAmas, and the islamic death cult mentality.

If you don't understand this, and as a Western man who values liberalism, democracy, and freedom - will still chant degeneracies like "globalize the intifada", i have no more words for that level of stupidity.
Or maybe you're a muslim (posing as a westerner) who deliberately rejects everything that is against his 7th century, warlord written book - or the hadith (expansions) which are even more bloodthirsty, because other warlords after Mohammad found the base story too soft: https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922

"Israel, despite its flaws, remains exceptional in the Middle East for offering full civil rights and high-ranking roles to ethnic and religious minorities (arabs, muslims, druze).
This level of inclusion is not mirrored in any islamic country toward non-muslims."

Israel is a jewel of the Middle-East, and anyone who does not understand it is either completely ignorant or a jihadi himself who got brainwashed into eternal hatred from age zero.

To be honest i believe the biggest trick the Devil has ever pulled was when he convinced Mohammad that he was the archangel Gabriel. There is no other religion on Earth which followers chant "God is greatest!" while they committ heinous acts on other human beings. They dont even feel the massive irony in it. They're similar to the mindless zealots in Act3, in the Kurast areas in Diablo 2 who blindly following the Lord of Hatred.
They even hate dogs, because they say if dogs are present in the house; angels wont come in - https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3322 - My understanding about dogs is that they usually have a pretty good sense to spot evil. No wonder they dont like dogs.
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