do you have a single fact to back that up?

mind and body is one

a lifetime of seeing overweight people who over eat and think it's completely not related, you can watch the show the biggest loser and see how they break the disillusion and always produce results
also you can ask any doctor what they think of someone who overeats and thinks it won't make them fat, delusion can be a result of family history, social ostration (the way other people treat them) self induced
and of course it's not completely their own fault, there are scientific reason as well and its usually a combination of both and usually a downward spiral. Also think of how they treat morbidly obese people - they put them on a diet, also think of how they treat anorexia - which is a fear of food/negative self image - it's very similar. No one simple chooses to be fat ,thinking you have a reason to mistreat someone just because they are overweight is simply not helpful to either party as it only reinforces stereotypes you hold and cause the other person more anxiety and stress and incentive to find comfort in food.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

Delusions can be bizarre or non-bizarre in content.[2] Non-bizarre delusions are fixed false beliefs that involve situations that could potentially occur in real life; examples include being followed or poisoned.[3] Apart from their delusions, people with delusional disorder may continue to socialize and function in a normal manner and their behavior does not generally seem odd or bizarre.

another Delusion is unwillingness to accept reality, belief in God or a higher power is not believed suffering from delusions unless it becomes your entire focus, but anything taken to the extreme is not good.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Aug 12 2016 04:16am

anecdotal evidence + reality TV shows = facts

That's how he can diagnose with the utmost certainty that the majority of obese people have a mental disorder.

it's a bit more overt than i'd like but it looks like fat shaming works


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3349932/Obese-woman-husband-called-fat-girl-loses-NINE-STONE-ditching-junk-food-diet.html#ixzz4H7d1Erik

and for those that think they're too good for anecdotal evidence, here's an academic study on the necessity of social pressures against obesity which is the exact opposite of the fat acceptance bs being shoved down our throats

http://www.dishlab.org/pubs/Callahan%20(2012)%20Obesity.pdf



-more anecdotal evidence
i'm was just reminded of a friend of mine in university who had a crush on some girl who called him fat - within a few months he'd lost so much weight
maybe the sense of shame needs to come from specific sources like people you want to impress

This post was edited by duffman316 on Aug 12 2016 07:13am

Anorexia is a terrible disease that kills many people every year and if anybody here works in health care and is sitting at a desk and a continuance of care package comes by for somebody with anorexia they better take notice, because that is a client that could very easily die on them, and having clients die on you is a very bad thing in our field.

Anorexia is a disease by every definition of the word, which simply is a physical condition one is in that causes dis-ease. On the ground we don't really believe in mind-body dualism in health care, we use the entire person as the focus. This wasn't the case for a very long time, but now it is. Medical doctors are finally catching up to the ecological perspective and social determinants of health and even health insurance companies are finally catching up on mental-physical health parity in reimbursement.

There are many diseases, some of them are purely physical phenomena that you can physically see with scans and manipulate. Some of them are less understood but are identifiable by being a collection of symptoms and evidence based-practices to ease the dis-ease from individuals experiencing them. The first type are in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases (ICD which is in the 9th edition) and the second type are in the Diagnostic and Statistical manual of Mental Disorders (DSM which is in its 5th edition). We are constantly learning new things about both types every day in all directions of research and hopefully new sciences like cognitive science will eventually bridge the gap of practices completely so a whole mind & body theory of medicine can be pioneered because what we are doing now isn't it....humanity is a bridge.

Having bad habits isn't delusion, it is probably a result of socialization and having parents who don't know how to cook.

There are mental illnesses that center around the mind's projection of its body etc, but that isn't common at all. Anecdotal evidence and "common sense" points that way, but a lot of things are counter intuitive.

This post was edited by Skinned on Aug 12 2016 07:19am

now that you've brought it up, i'm curious how anorexia/obesity are related and came across this

http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/05/22/brain-circuits-differ-in-women-with-anorexia-vs-obesity/39050.html


not entirely sure what it means but i'm sure one of the biology eggheads can make something of it

This post was edited by duffman316 on Aug 12 2016 07:27am

shaming ppl is rude, there are better ways to incentivize fat loss, such as making them pay for their own medical bills / denying them medical insurance

big government, regulations, welfare state enables obesity.

lol you rly sure about that little dude ?

100% sure big guy