I pulled it out of my ass, because the exact value does not matter, when the fact is that the arsenal of Hamas is in it's entirety provided for by Iran.

The isolationist radical wing of the Republican party is clearly in the wrong on this issue of blaming America or otherwise trashing it's foreign involvement and is partaking in the same Anti-Americanism that the far left radicals are.

John Bolton is right to be pissed at Iran as is Lindsey Graham. Iran, with it's current terrorist regime, is unsustainable and must be dealt with eventually less these attacks keep happening or worse.

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 13 2023 11:22am

why dont you pull your head out of your ass while youre at it, do us all the favor

Still yelling at that mirror!

My viewpoints are clear. Can you explain what I'm twisting into a pretzel? Can clarify points if needed.

Gaza people have been told to leave the area
Hamas hold them as a human shield, but since Saturday that won’t help them anymore.

I’m waiting for the day that Palestinian people will love their children more than they hate Israel.

Does not seem like a conflict that can be resolved tbh.

MANY innocent Palestine's just want a place to live. And that land is where they were born/grew up.

Hamas wants to exterminate & convert, also they are in favor of sharia law. So we know Hamas has no place in modern society.

Israel is the powerful side. While i don't generally think "Might Is Right" fits in modern western society views/morals, "Might Is Right" has ruled the world since the dawn of civilization, AND STILL DOES.

If Hamas were the ones with the higher military power (and if Israel didn't have the West backing them), they would have already wiped out the Jews.

The land was owned/controlled by the British empire during WW2, and the UN accepted to split the land between the jews and the Muslims there at the time.

So where do we draw the line of how far back into human civilization, one group gets to claim ownership because "they lived there at one point in time?".

Back in like 66–136 CE. a lengthy period of violence, enslavement, expulsion, displacement, forced conversion, and forced migration against the local Jewish population by the Roman Empire. (whom resided in that land originally as well)

Love for their children is embedded in any hate for Israel that Palestinian people have. Hard to envision a future for your child when your neighbor is destroying that future.

While Israel and the IDF have done plenty of terrible acts and have hurt innocent people, it is important to distinguish the reasons why.

Hamas commands and often forces, the innocent to remain in an active warzone in order to cause them to die so they get more support and get to convert the families to their cause. Also hiding military assets around schools, hospitals and civilian building.

Why cant we just have Hamas/Palestines agaist Israel and Israel meet in an empty battlefield and battle? Obviously we all know why but just making the point.

Hamas does not have the power to kill all the jews, but they would if they could. Israel has the power to wipe out all of Gaza and Palestine but will not do so because obvious reasons.

After the land was split and given to the jews by the UN post WW2, surrounding muslim nations were completely against it and started wars, which they lost. Israel is often defending themselves or retaliating against an original act against them first, and at times, overstepped and claimed more land for example.

Also it's important to note that Egypt and Jordan etc DO NOT want the Palestinian people and / hamas in their countries because they had had MULTIPLE issues when they allowed them to enter with ease. It's important to remember Black September and all the bombings around Egypt orchestrated by Hamas/Palestinians in the past.

This conflict honestly has no "peaceful ending". It's just so fucked.

This post was edited by iBruno on Oct 13 2023 11:42am

You're saying that hate actually = love here. It's akin to saying that Nazi Germany's hatred of the Jews is embedded in their love of the German people.

It's absolutely heinous & wrong. The Palestinians are completely consumed by their hate of Israel that they put AK-47's into their young son's hands and place their daughters in front of them to be used as human shields. This isn't love.

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 13 2023 11:44am

Well said brotha +1