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Aug 3 2017 07:54pm
Quote (Brian_D @ Aug 3 2017 07:38pm)
The other ways that that been tried already would be doomed to fail? No thanks.


Free market hasn't existed since the 1950's.

Why do fools like you pretend to understand history when you've never studied it?
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Aug 3 2017 09:46pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 3 2017 07:54pm)
Free market hasn't existed since the 1950's.

Why do fools like you pretend to understand history when you've never studied it?


Posts a patently false statement about historical fact

Criticizes others for not understanding history.


Trump supporter everybody. A walking talking Dunning-Kruger.


inb4 excellence rides my nuts

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Aug 3 2017 10:08pm
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Posts a patently false statement about historical fact

Criticizes others for not understanding history.


Trump supporter everybody. A walking talking Dunning-Kruger.


inb4 excellence rides my nuts


Medicare started in the 60's. Health care wasn't a free market after then.

Why do you post here?
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Aug 3 2017 10:15pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 3 2017 06:54pm)
Free market hasn't existed since the 1950's.

Why do fools like you pretend to understand history when you've never studied it?


So 50 years of failure isnt enough? Lets try something different. If it doesnt work out, we can always change it..

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Aug 3 2017 10:29pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 3 2017 10:08pm)
Medicare started in the 60's. Health care wasn't a free market after then.

Why do you post here?


You seem to be implying it was a free market before.

Spoiler: Regulation of medical care didn't start with Medicare.



One reason I post here is just because I love making people like you look stupid. It takes almost no effort and it's a nice break when I'm doing something tedious.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 3 2017 10:30pm
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Aug 4 2017 04:45am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 4 2017 12:29am)
You seem to be implying it was a free market before.

Spoiler: Regulation of medical care didn't start with Medicare.



One reason I post here is just because I love making people like you look stupid. It takes almost no effort and it's a nice break when I'm doing something tedious.


It was a free market before. There was no fake demand from medicare to skyrocket the costs like there is today.
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Aug 4 2017 04:52am
Man people are really burned out on Trump-mania by this point aren't they?
The media got leaked and published transcripts of phone calls between Trump & Pena Nieto / Turnbull and nobody even bothers
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Aug 4 2017 04:56am
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Man people are really burned out on Trump-mania by this point aren't they?
The media got leaked and published transcripts of phone calls between Trump & Pena Nieto / Turnbull and nobody even bothers


Obama's scandals included killing people in Operation Fast and Furious. Why should we care about this bs now?
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Aug 4 2017 05:22am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 3 2017 08:47pm)
Agreed. Well, it's not the only way, but clearly the best way.



do you seriously think that I put in a lot of effort in each and every single post I make on a forum like d2jsp which is full of nerds, trolls and retards? come on.

anyhow, it cant be denied that obamacare was executing a large redistribution of utility (monetary or in the form of healthcare coverage) from lower middle class americans, predominantly whites, to the poor, disproportionately minorities.
it also cant be denied that obamacare was a large burden on medium sized firms with between 50 and say 1000 employees. and lets not forget all the people who were shut out of getting their hours raised because of obamacare.


in the end, neither obamacare nor the previous republican healthcare suggestions in congress offer a solution, they all just redistribute the burden of the healthcare system slightly in favor of their voters' demographic. the true issue in american healthcare clearly are the outrageous costs, i.e. that big pharma is exploiting the dysfunctionalities of the american healthcare system to increase their profit margins at the cost of american workers. THIS is the true issue here, but with the stranglehold of pharma lobbyists on congress, it wont change anytime soon.



accuses me of 'stereotyping' and then calls his own stereotypes 'just AoEing'. typical lefty double standard. :rofl:


Omg someone trolling on an internet forum (insert self confirmingnstereotype here).

And 18 million more people for health insurance, an amazing social achievement.

It is too bad insurance companies are robbing us of services and dollars. Or go back to the last system of universal healthcare through emergency room, which is what made costs so high to begin with. Or go back before Obama when getting ill was the number one reason families lost their homes....Hell of a thing to fight for.

And yes, the government redistributes money to the people who own it, the 1%. Dumb asses like you think the money moves downward when if you look at all data it is all moving up and concentrating on the hands of the few while you're getting mad at broke Motherfuckers for seeing a doctor. Lol.

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Aug 4 2017 06:12am
Quote (Goomshill @ 4 Aug 2017 06:52)
Man people are really burned out on Trump-mania by this point aren't they?
The media got leaked and published transcripts of phone calls between Trump & Pena Nieto / Turnbull and nobody even bothers

The President having the same position in public and in private is yawn-worthy, the only thing is it runs counter to the usual DC two-faced standard politicians have.

A stable, fair and balanced media wouldn't bother leaking that but alas here we are.
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