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Jul 28 2017 01:27pm
Trump again calling for a 51 vote senate rule change. Any conservatives, or libertarian for that matter, still supporting that stooge can turn in their card now.
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Jul 28 2017 02:58pm
President Donald Trump says he is moving Homeland Security Sec. Gen. John Kelly to become his new chief of staff.
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President Donald Trump says he is moving Homeland Security Sec. Gen. John Kelly to become his new chief of staff.


Yuh fired!

I expect Paul ryan isn't to happy
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Jul 28 2017 03:37pm
I hate McCain, but im glad he voted NO.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 28 2017 03:37pm)
but im glad he voted NO.


Ditto that
I don't want to see Trump signing some bad piece of legislation just so he can put a feather in his cap
if McCain can force the republicans and democrats to compromise, he's a hero

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 28 2017 04:36pm
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Jul 28 2017 06:18pm
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Ditto that
I don't want to see Trump signing some bad piece of legislation just so he can put a feather in his cap
if McCain can force the republicans and democrats to compromise, he's a hero


in all honesty what is that compromise? Not even talking on the actual chances of breaking the current gridlock, but what is the compromise? I thought that shitty light bill they shut down was pretty close to what they'd want, without the PP defunding. it's not like it's simple to take off the mandate, that collapses everything IMO.

i don't fucking get what a compromise is unless it's "well what you guys (dems) did didn't work. us doing a repeal won't work. Let's all just swerve this bus all the way to a single payer?"

if it's that i'll get a massive boner
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Jul 28 2017 06:58pm
Open up the state markets, fund risk corridors, create state run high risk pools. That's all reasonable for both sides. Replacing the mandate with the republican suggested coercive measures to force people onto healthcare (waiting times for pre-existing conditions / canceling insurance / etc) wouldn't collapse the mandate's effect on income, and even the mandate didn't have that big an effect on revenue, enough to raise the already skyrocketing individual market sure
then they can trade some of those far-right sweeteners they no longer need like PP defunding for sweeteners on the democrat side so they can claim token victories for their base

the republican bill was compromised between the moderate establishment and the far-right freedom caucus so it had plenty of measures that could be sacrifice when compromising across the middle.
Turning Medicaid into a black grant might be about as easy to compromise as the status of Jerusalem in the israeli-palestinian conflict

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Lmao that's hilarious.

Cats out of the bag. Perhaps the strangest event in US history is the states agreeing to surrender power to appoint their Senators and letting the actual people decide them...three fourth's at least had to agree. My American Constitution teacher was just like "I don't understand why they did that, given that politics is about distribution of power...nobody ever gives it up...".

I don't know how I feel about it. The Senate is supposed to be where the Bills from the hot headed House of Reps goes to simmer for awhile and be debated by people who don't have term limits to worry about looming over their heads, so they can be more constructive than politically charged...the House has always been the rabble, and the Senate has always been where the grown ups are sitting. Then and now.

We've had some pretty amazing senators, as well, then and now. I prefer a statewide race, because that favors public opinion, and rural spaces shouldn't dictate policy to the urban places that subsidize them, to be brutally honest, and there are many more rural state representatives than urban ones in most states, so it would let the tail wag the dog and the dog should be wagging the tail as the natural order of things.
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