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Feb 16 2023 12:46pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Feb 15 2023 06:08pm)
It's real... Dioxin. I guess the town has been evacuated... I checked: seems they had to wait for... two days ??
This could ends up into a big scandal.


https://i.imgur.com/Btsk1Wk.jpeg


Company reaponsibe will likely pay some small stipend for the mess while residents suffer years of damages and time in civil trying to hold said company accountable for decimation and lingering long term effects.

Would def upgrade your home water filter system if near this. Spring frog population will be a big tell if hippies are right about larger scope impact to water.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Feb 16 2023 12:46pm
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Feb 16 2023 12:57pm
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Company reaponsibe will likely pay some small stipend for the mess while residents suffer years of damages and time in civil trying to hold said company accountable for decimation and lingering long term effects.

Would def upgrade your home water filter system if near this. Spring frog population will be a big tell if hippies are right about larger scope impact to water.


Alot of samples in the soil have to be collected and validated as evidence asap.
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Feb 16 2023 01:46pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 16 2023 01:07pm)
breaks yes (and sick days/vacation/work-life balance) but also because they're vastly understaffed and the massive concern of safety impacts due to being understaffed. once they had a 5 person crew minimum, which was then reduced to 3, and now 2. where they once had 3+ minutes to inspect each car, they now have around 90 seconds due to a lack of manpower. safety and a lack of oversight of train safety has been an issue for literally decades. how did we get here? because the railroad companies lobbied for more deregulation AND they laid off employees to increase their profits. when you cut corners like this, accidents are more likely to happen

this shit has been an issue for DECADES

https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-metrolink-hearing5-2009mar05-story.html


Yup. And some dude thought it was wise to just let the spill burn.
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Quote (lodd222 @ Feb 16 2023 12:30pm)
another conspiracy theorist saying experts are all paid off, seek therapy the world isnt out to get you fender.


holy irony
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Hmm...so the areas where Norfolk Southern cut corners directly contributed to the areas where the NTSB is finding preliminary fault. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/whos-responsible-for-the-toxic-train

Link above also includes a link to surveillance footage of the problem rail car on fire, almost 20 miles from the wreck site.

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Hmm...so the areas where Norfolk Southern cut corners directly contributed to the areas where the NTSB is finding preliminary fault. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/whos-responsible-for-the-toxic-train

Link above also includes a link to surveillance footage of the problem rail car on fire, almost 20 miles from the wreck site.


great read, thanks for sharing the link
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Hmm...so the areas where Norfolk Southern cut corners directly contributed to the areas where the NTSB is finding preliminary fault. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/whos-responsible-for-the-toxic-train

Link above also includes a link to surveillance footage of the problem rail car on fire, almost 20 miles from the wreck site.


The Lever showed that in the past 10 years or so, the company took active steps that reduced safety in these very areas, all in pursuit of greater profits. Here is a quick summary of that report.

The article i posted yesterday

https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/

So ultimately it's the private companies and also the politics who declined security regulations ...

responded me this: "It means nothing... they aren't experts and obviously have a secondary agenda."

For sure they want bigger pay for lesser working time, but they are probably also interested in doing well their job, as example: security routines checks per car which have been reduced in time years after years.
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The Lever showed that in the past 10 years or so, the company took active steps that reduced safety in these very areas, all in pursuit of greater profits. Here is a quick summary of that report.

The article i posted yesterday

https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/

So ultimately it's the private companies and also the politics who declined security regulations ...

^Ghot responded me this: "It means nothing... they aren't experts and obviously have a secondary agenda."

For sure they want bigger pay for lesser working time, but they are probably also interested in doing well their job, as example: security routines checks per car which have been reduced in time years after years.


also safety inspections grow lax over time. look at airline security, post 9-11 they actually did a decent job of inspecting. fast forward 10 years and they have like a 5% success rate at finding weapons when people do studies to see if they can sneak them in.

for the next several years we'll see better inspections, then it will wain, and we'll see the accidents again.
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also safety inspections grow lax over time. look at airline security, post 9-11 they actually did a decent job of inspecting. fast forward 10 years and they have like a 5% success rate at finding weapons when people do studies to see if they can sneak them in.

for the next several years we'll see better inspections, then it will wain, and we'll see the accidents again.


So no regulations needed ?
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