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Aug 14 2022 01:30pm
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unfortunately, you don't quite seem have the ability to make a crucial distinction here, so let me try to explain it to you in simple terms you can follow: there is a difference between LEGAL and MORAL accountability.
even the repeated inciting of vigilantism and terrorism will be difficult to prove as the sole motivation for such actions - especially if it's done indirectly, through lies and misrepresentations, which is why faux and other right wing media do it that way. their viewers still get the message though, as proven by the rise of threats and actual acts of terrorism committed.

that does, however NOT mean that any decent person, anyone who is NOT a fascist bootlicker, should try to downplay or even support this kind of despicable propaganda. yet here you are, twisting yourself into a pretzel to defend faux news' stochastic terrorism, their lies and propaganda.

the whole "b-b-but legally they are not responsible for what their unhinged viewers do" narrative is just a dumb pivot, and largely irrelevant to my point. fact is, they intentionally contribute to pushing those people over the edge, and this judge wouldn't be the first one to lose his life over it... imagine making excuses for such practices. disgusting really...


Morally speaking, they are still not responsible for what others do. Sounds like you are the one that's twisting himself into a pretzel.
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Aug 14 2022 01:32pm
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Morally speaking, they are still not responsible for what others do. Sounds like you are the one that's twisting himself into a pretzel.


not in general, but when using lies and propaganda in order to incite their viewers, of course. anyone denying that is either dumb af, or maybe a terrorist themselves...
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Aug 14 2022 01:35pm
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not in general, but when using lies and propaganda in order to incite their viewers, of course. anyone denying that is either dumb af, or maybe a terrorist themselves...



Pointing out the judge has defended several of Epstein’s employees is not propaganda.

Or lies.

Or incitement.

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Aug 14 2022 01:35pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 15 2022 05:30am)
Morally speaking, they are still not responsible for what others do. Sounds like you are the one that's twisting himself into a pretzel.


If i was wanting to learn anything about morals a neo nazi edgelord would be the last person on earth i asked.
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Aug 14 2022 01:35pm
Quote (fender @ Aug 14 2022 12:32pm)
not in general, but when using lies and propaganda in order to incite their viewers, of course. anyone denying that is either dumb af, or maybe a terrorist themselves...


You need to prove that Fox spreads lies and propaganda. I have asked you many times to prove this, you just keep asserting such is the case, however asserting things does not an argument make.

You also need to prove that Fox incited their viewers. Lastly, I am not too sure about the laws in the States but I think incitement isn't illegal. Could be wrong though.
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Aug 14 2022 01:36pm
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If i was wanting to learn anything about morals a neo nazi edgelord would be the last person on earth i asked.


One day, your butt will stop hurting.
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Aug 14 2022 01:37pm
People who are freaking out about this are simply against freedom of press. When the truth makes what they believe seem anything but righteous and just, they must silence them.
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Aug 14 2022 01:58pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 14 Aug 2022 21:35)
You need to prove that Fox spreads lies and propaganda. I have asked you many times to prove this, you just keep asserting such is the case, however asserting things does not an argument make.

You also need to prove that Fox incited their viewers. Lastly, I am not too sure about the laws in the States but I think incitement isn't illegal. Could be wrong though.


this whole thread is about a lie used as propaganda. again, you being unable or unwilling to apply common sense does NOT mean obvious things aren't obvious. the results speak for themselves. shame on you for defending such practices. that's textbook fascist...
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Aug 14 2022 01:59pm
Continuing to disregard inconvenient facts.
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Aug 14 2022 02:02pm
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this whole thread is about a lie used as propaganda. again, you being unable or unwilling to apply common sense does NOT mean obvious things aren't obvious. the results speak for themselves. shame on you for defending such practices. that's textbook fascist...


Keep asserting.
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