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Aug 9 2022 02:54pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 10 Aug 2022 05:57)
Actually, upon further thought, I determined that AJ hadn't slandered the victims' parents. Slander is defined as when someone says something false that damages another person's reputation. However, the parents have no reputation to speak of. "I am the parent of a victiom of Sandy Hook shooting" is not a reputation. Therefore, AJ did not harm anybody's reputation. Hence, he didn't commit slander. He did spread falsehoods, however that in itself is not illegal.


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Thanks god you determined it


So you think I am automatically wrong just because I am not a judge? Don't you know that you are supposed to use your faculties to determine the truth of a claim instead of relying on other people?
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So you think I am automatically wrong just because I am not a judge? Don't you know that you are supposed to use your faculties to determine the truth of a claim instead of relying on other people?


No but I strongly believe a judge is more familiar with the law than you.

Free speech is not illegal BUT defamation is.
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No but I strongly believe a judge is more familiar with the law than you.



You need to show how what I said is wrong. You shouldn't assume I am wrong just because I disagree with the judge's finding.
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Free speech is not illegal BUT defamation is.


Prove that what AJ did amounts to defamation. And no, saying "cause that's what the judge said" won't cut it.

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You need to show how what I said is wrong. You shouldn't assume I am wrong just because I disagree with the judge's finding.


Prove that what AJ did amounts to defamation. And no, saying "cause that's what the judge said" won't cut it.


AJ lost the defamation case by default because he did not provide the documents requested :D

So the entire civil trial was to determine how much.

His own stupid fault tbh. He just needed to provide what they requested. A defamation case is really tough to prove.

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So the entire civil trial was to determine how much.

His own stupid fault tbh. He just needed to provide what they requested. A defamation case is really tough to prove.


You are unable to prove how AJ's actions amount to defamation.
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You are unable to prove how AJ's actions amount to defamation.


Again... he lost by default.

The question was not whether he was guilty or not. Just how much he should be charged.

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Again... he lost by default.

The question was not whether he was guilty or not. Just how much he should be charged.


The fact he lost doesn't mean anything. The judge could have been stupid and/or wrong, which is very probable because she is Hispanic. She could also be biased.

In any event, you shouldn't let a judge do your thinking for you. Instead of saying, "he did defame because the judge says so", you should use your brain and figure out things for yourself.

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The fact he lost doesn't mean anything. The judge could have been stupid and/or wrong, which is very probable because she is Hispanic.

In any event, you shouldn't let a judge do your thinking for you. Instead of saying, "he did defame because the judge says so", you should use your brain and figure out things for yourself.


HAHAHAHAH wow. You suck dude. You suck by default :D

I totally agree with the judge.

But let me explain you my opinion cus you seem to really want to hear it. Listen and listen closely:

Alex has the right to express his opinion, even if his opinions don't make any sense. The problem is, that he claims Sandy Hook was staged. Not as an opinion rather something he was asserting as true.
To say that sandy hook was staged is to say that the parents of all the victims are lying and are evil conspirators with the government. That qualifies as defamation.

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HAHAHAHAH wow. You suck dude. You suck by default :D

I totally agree with the judge.

But let me explain you my opinion cus you seem to really want to hear it. Listen and listen closely:

Alex has the right to express his opinion, even if his opinions don't make any sense. The problem is, that he claims Sandy Hook was staged. Not as an opinion rather something he was asserting as true.
To say that sandy hook was staged is to say that the parents of all the victims are lying and are evil conspirators with the government. That qualifies as defamation.


Did he literally state that the parents are conspirators, verbatim, or did you merely infer that?

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You are a few months early. Also, it should be Merry Christmas. It's white people's traditional way of greeting each other, and I know you can't handle this.

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