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May 25 2022 04:24pm
Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 04:08pm)
an immature, lame, and indirect concession still counts...


Yet another haughty, vain grasp at superiority^^^
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May 25 2022 04:25pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 25 2022 06:15pm)
A vast majority of those are suicides and the rest are due to gang violence. My friend is a public defendant and his 14 year old client shot a homey in the head because the super predator told him to do it. It was all on camera so he plead guilty. Guess how much time he got? 7 years. When he gets out, how many more people do you think he's going to kill or do you think he'll be redeemed?

Not sure what to do about suicides tbh. Frankly, that's your job.


Yes I'm in the suicide business and having a firearm in your home increases the chances of someone in your home dying exponentially. Increases by hundreds and hundreds of percentage points. I personally spend a lot of time making sure firearms are removed from homes to ensure safe discharge environments.
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May 25 2022 04:26pm
Quote (Santara @ 26 May 2022 00:24)
Yet another haughty, vain grasp at superiority^^^


no, just an acknowledgement of you blatantly dodging the argument after having straw-manned it twice before. stay small, kid.
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May 25 2022 04:33pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 25 2022 05:55pm)
The number one cause of death to American children is gun fire.



Big incorrect there...

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmsr1804754


I added it up for you... in the RED box... 6,286





This post was edited by Ghot on May 25 2022 04:34pm
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They are referring to the latest data. Your data is half a decade old.
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May 25 2022 04:34pm
so what if we call shot children "bullet induced, late abortions"?

the democrats should not care then
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May 25 2022 04:35pm
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They are referring to the latest data. Your data is half a decade old.




No.... they are referring to MSM BS. :/
I'm citing New England Journal of Medicine


Or are you claiming that since we have MORE gun laws since 2016... the child gun deaths have gone... UP?



https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728/ref=sr_1_1?crid=SQDE962G376Z&keywords=How+to+lie+with+statistics&qid=1653518465&sprefix=how+to+lie+with+statistics%2Caps%2C54&sr=8-1

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May 25 2022 04:49pm
Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 05:26pm)
no, just an acknowledgement of you blatantly dodging the argument after having straw-manned it twice before. stay small, kid.


Dodged what? You made a claim, and your claim was wrong. I even mentioned a recent instance to prove it (Bunkerville). Then you went full on autist, and it became time to consign your vapid spluttering to the trash bin.
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May 25 2022 05:09pm
Quote (Santara @ 26 May 2022 00:49)
Dodged what? You made a claim, and your claim was wrong. I even mentioned a recent instance to prove it (Bunkerville). Then you went full on autist, and it became time to consign your vapid spluttering to the trash bin.


my claim is that guns did nothing to prevent america's decline into an oligarchy, and that it's a silly excuse to justify accepting dead children for a dumb little hobby.

a selfish, racist cattle farmer using his white privilege to avoid grazing fees on publicly owned land is hardly proof of the opposite, how delusional are you, lol? it's one of those "libertarian" half-thoughts, where you look at an issue, don't think it through logically, and arrive at some absurd conclusion that you then pretend fits into your "ideology".

not a single shot was fired (or even threatened) to prevent the PATRIOT act or buckley v. valeo. apparently you don't understand the difference between a group of selfish dickheads using guns for their own profit (usually we call them criminals), and the imaginary power of guns to prevent actual oppressive legislation...

if you actually thought you made a valid point there, and the bundy standoff somehow proves that america is not a de facto oligarchy, i congratulate you for winning this year's mental gymnastics gold medal...
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May 25 2022 05:13pm
Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 06:09pm)
my claim is that guns did nothing to prevent america's decline into an oligarchy, and that it's a silly excuse to justify accepting dead children for a dumb little hobby.

a selfish, racist cattle farmer using his white privilege to avoid grazing fees on publicly owned land is hardly proof of the opposite, how delusional are you, lol? it's one of those "libertarian" half-thoughts, where you look at an issue, don't think it through logically, and arrive at some absurd conclusion that you then pretend fits into your "ideology".

not a single shot was fired (or even threatened) to prevent the PATRIOT act or buckley v. valeo. apparently you don't understand the difference between a group of selfish dickheads using guns for their own profit (usually we call them criminals), and the imaginary power of guns to prevent actual oppressive legislation...

if you actually thought you made a valid point there, and the bundy standoff somehow proves that america is not a de facto oligarchy, i congratulate you for winning this year's mental gymnastics gold medal...


Guns have always done nothing.
It is up to YOU to use them to stop it.
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