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Mar 29 2022 12:43am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 28 2022 09:47pm)
Its basically the words he used not the words you're making up on a video game forum.

Just quote him and quit letting your imagination run wild.


Lord forbid we hold Biden to the standard we hold any other politician or president. How many times did Trump get skewered by 'filling in the blanks'? Biden said “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power.” The only way the US can remove Putin from power is to kill him. Everyone in the world reasonably interprets it as a vague death threat. Then the white house came out and contradicted Biden almost immediately, saying our policy isn't 'regime change'. And again, 'regime change' is another American euphemism for political assassination. So we said we're not talking about killing Putin. Except then Biden came out yesterday and said he refuses to take back what he said and isn't backtracking anything. Except then he immediately followed it up by saying our policy on 'regime change' hadn't changed.

I have a great disdain for word games and bullshittery. Biden went off script, he made a vague threat to Putin, the white house tried to spin it clumsily by walking it back, then Biden tried to spin it with more bullshit by claiming not to take it back while taking it back.
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Mar 29 2022 01:07am
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 29 2022 07:43am)
Lord forbid we hold Biden to the standard we hold any other politician or president. How many times did Trump get skewered by 'filling in the blanks'? Biden said “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power.” The only way the US can remove Putin from power is to kill him. Everyone in the world reasonably interprets it as a vague death threat. Then the white house came out and contradicted Biden almost immediately, saying our policy isn't 'regime change'. And again, 'regime change' is another American euphemism for political assassination. So we said we're not talking about killing Putin. Except then Biden came out yesterday and said he refuses to take back what he said and isn't backtracking anything. Except then he immediately followed it up by saying our policy on 'regime change' hadn't changed.

I have a great disdain for word games and bullshittery. Biden went off script, he made a vague threat to Putin, the white house tried to spin it clumsily by walking it back, then Biden tried to spin it with more bullshit by claiming not to take it back while taking it back.


Thanks for stating the facts but how can the planet tell this old man and many other old men/women like him that cold war era is over?

Some people just cling to the past with grudges and remember the Russian invasion yesterday will be history and forgotten tomorrow. Thats how the rubel rolls (this is metaphoric speaking please do not attack me thanks).

This post was edited by Humbletrader on Mar 29 2022 01:10am
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Mar 29 2022 02:07am
Next milestone, will Putin put a stop to gas delivery as of 31th?
We've got reserves for around 5-6 months, Russia has got huuuge gold reserves so it won't be a problem short term. Long term, we'll have a huge problem at hand. Alienate Russia too much and they refrain from selling anything to EU again like iron, nickle, inert gases etc. all of which aren't present in Europe.
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Mar 29 2022 02:13am
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Next milestone, will Putin put a stop to gas delivery as of 31th?
We've got reserves for around 5-6 months, Russia has got huuuge gold reserves so it won't be a problem short term. Long term, we'll have a huge problem at hand. Alienate Russia too much and they refrain from selling anything to EU again like iron, nickle, inert gases etc. all of which aren't present in Europe.


Yeah true but this is going to be changed along with the sanctions against russia once they have brought Azov Nazis down and only pure Ukraine remains. The other thing was the military targets which are 80% destroyed. Soon this invasion will end. In the aftermath I hope Zelensky finally agrees not to hurt the Russians living in Ukraine and Putin agrees to not invade Ukraine ever again and pay Ukraine restauration money to help them rebuild Mariupol.

But if only Nato does not make this any more difficult than it already is. I am optimistic this whole thing will end. And like always in war there are no winners only losers.
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Yeah true but this is going to be changed along with the sanctions against russia once they have brought Azov Nazis down and only pure Ukraine remains. The other thing was the military targets which are 80% destroyed. Soon this invasion will end. In the aftermath I hope Zelensky finally agrees not to hurt the Russians living in Ukraine and Putin agrees to not invade Ukraine ever again and pay Ukraine restauration money to help them rebuild Mariupol.

But if only Nato does not make this any more difficult than it already is. I am optimistic this whole thing will end. And like always in war there are no winners only losers.


Negotiating positions are still far off. I don't see how this war will end soon.
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Mar 29 2022 02:34am
Good lord. Can you even imagine Trump having the unprecedented flexibility to take a massive mulligan by taking back that statement. Biden, by any objective measure, dropped a massive gaffe. The American Pravda, knowing half the country will believe god damn anything, has of course tried their best to damage control this, but even the Shapiro and McConnell wing of the Right has found their balls on this one.

I hope someday we get a president who has control of their emotions and has a command of some semblance of decorum when dealing with hostile nuclear powers.
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Mar 29 2022 02:49am
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Good lord. Can you even imagine Trump having the unprecedented flexibility to take a massive mulligan by taking back that statement. Biden, by any objective measure, dropped a massive gaffe. The American Pravda, knowing half the country will believe god damn anything, has of course tried their best to damage control this, but even the Shapiro and McConnell wing of the Right has found their balls on this one.

I hope someday we get a president who has control of their emotions and has a command of some semblance of decorum when dealing with hostile nuclear powers.


Its fine Peskov and Putin already know Biden and female friends are emotional creatures as females are and that is good and thatswhy Russia said yesterday nuclear war is no longer an option and only a choice if Russia is attacked directly by Nato.

Thanks God Russia was mature enough to de-escalate this situation lol.
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Mar 29 2022 03:27am
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Mar 29 2022 03:34am)
Good lord. Can you even imagine Trump having the unprecedented flexibility to take a massive mulligan by taking back that statement. Biden, by any objective measure, dropped a massive gaffe. The American Pravda, knowing half the country will believe god damn anything, has of course tried their best to damage control this, but even the Shapiro and McConnell wing of the Right has found their balls on this one.

I hope someday we get a president who has control of their emotions and has a command of some semblance of decorum when dealing with hostile nuclear powers.


Heck it wasn't just one mulligan. In the past 72 hours, Biden told US troops they were going to Ukraine, said we need to kill Putin and said we would use chemical weapons in response to Russia using chemical weapons. Then the White House handlers said no troops are going to Ukraine, its not our policy to kill Putin, and we won't ever use chemical weapons. Joe Biden isn't just making gaffes, he's failing to remember basic foreign policy positions that the US has held for decades. And even after the White House runs cleanup on his remarks, he goes out pugilistic and insists he's done nothing wrong


Lets remember that the metric used to judge Trump was that his statements weren't allowed to be tempered by even the very next thing he spoke, seconds later, in the same quote. They threw such a fit over "very fine people" when Trump literally said "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally". And he got skewered on that quote taken out of context. Meanwhile Biden gets 48 hours to take back his gaffe and he tries to simultaneously double down on it and contradict it

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Heck it wasn't just one mulligan. In the past 72 hours, Biden told US troops they were going to Ukraine, said we need to kill Putin and said we would use chemical weapons in response to Russia using chemical weapons. Then the White House handlers said no troops are going to Ukraine, its not our policy to kill Putin, and we won't ever use chemical weapons. Joe Biden isn't just making gaffes, he's failing to remember basic foreign policy positions that the US has held for decades. And even after the White House runs cleanup on his remarks, he goes out pugilistic and insists he's done nothing wrong


Lets remember that the metric used to judge Trump was that his statements weren't allowed to be tempered by even the very next thing he spoke, seconds later, in the same quote. They threw such a fit over "very fine people" when Trump literally said "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally". And he got skewered on that quote taken out of context. Meanwhile Biden gets 48 hours to take back his gaffe and he tries to simultaneously double down on it and contradict it


So what is your suggestion? I mean no matter what I still believe neither uncle Biden nor uncle Putin are truly evil and in their Yugoslawia and Syria bombing hearts they are human just like everybody else and Trump is certainly no angel either but my personal take on this would be to tell him and his staff to rebuild the American values again where diplomacy was the key rather than provocation towards Russia. Hell even split Ukraine in east and west like german DDR is a better approach than nuclear war.
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Mar 29 2022 04:11am
Al Jazeera is reporting that Russian foreign ministry accuses USA of launching a wide cyber attack against them and that this will have dreadful consequences. Can't find an online source.

Perhaps related:

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/2980498/6-navy-growler-aircraft-headed-to-germany-to-support-deterrence-mission/

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Six U.S. Navy EA-18G Growler aircraft out of Naval Air Station Whidbey Island in Washington State are on their way to Europe and are expected to arrive today in Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby said.


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"They are not being deployed to be used against Russian forces in Ukraine," Kirby said. "They are being deployed completely in keeping with our efforts to bolster NATO's deterrence and defense capabilities along that eastern flank."
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