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Mar 15 2022 08:33am
Bio labs also are medical related, not only weapons.

Hope this helps.
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Mar 15 2022 09:59am
Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 15 2022 09:33am)
Bio labs also are medical related, not only weapons.

Hope this helps.


calling it "bio labs" invokes scary sci-fi imagery though, which means there's something bad happening out there, which means we'll keep clicking/viewing/tuning in.
but for the life of me, I don't understand the republican position. is USA good, or is USA bad? seems like USA bad now and we must all understand the Russian perspective.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 15 2022 09:10am)
The vast majority of research institutions that do "biology research" do not do research on bioweapons like anthrax, plague, etc. These Ukrainian facilities held those same leftover agents from USSR bioweapons programs. As I said before, nobody can conflate genetically engineered apple tree cultivars with bioweapons. Someone chopping up mice embryos to study cancer diagnostics isn't going to have weapons material. There is no distinction between research on and maintenance of weaponizable pathogens, and being a bioweapons facility. Otherwise we'd be able to say there's no such thing as a bioweapons facility anywhere in the world, even though the US, China and Russia obviously all have them.And any civilian peacetime research institution that intended to conduct its research entirely above the board, would instantly destroy its dangerous pathogens when located in a war zone. And wouldn't be located in the poorest country in Europe, in the middle of a war zone, to begin with.


The bold is an exceptionally stupid thing to say and you should be genuinely embarrased to have said it.

The italicized is exactly what Ukraine was in the process of doing.


Dude, you disproved yourself.

Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 15 2022 09:33am)
Bio labs also are medical related, not only weapons.

Hope this helps.


Goom has to actively ignore this fact or it becomes clear he just ate up Russian propaganda without a second thought.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Mar 15 2022 10:37am
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Mar 15 2022 02:20pm
Putin claiming Zelenski was a "nazi" didn't work at the beginning of the war. So, Vlad resorted to the biolab conspiracies and all of the far-right social networks went right along with it.

Here's a striking chart from the data company Pyrra, tracking “biolabs” on 15 influential far-right social networks.

That jump? The day of the invasion.

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Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 15 2022 10:20pm)
Vlad resorted to the biolab conspiracies


"labs actually real.... will call it conspiracy anyway for dramatic effect, hope nobody notice"

ah the wondrous mind of a rabid leftist radical
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 15 2022 05:40pm)
"labs actually real.... will call it conspiracy anyway for dramatic effect, hope nobody notice"

ah the wondrous mind of a rabid leftist radical


OK, Let me correct myself. Vlad resorted to the biolab weapons conspiracy.
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Quote (said_aouita @ Mar 16 2022 08:42am)
OK, Let me correct myself. Vlad resorted to the biolabweapons conspiracy.


Biolabs with anthrax, plague, etc are biolabs with bioweapons. Anthrax, plague, etc are bioweapons. B = C, A + B = A + C
The whole western media sphere really shot themselves in the foot on the coverage of this by taking completely the wrong tack. There was plenty of opportunity to minimize and deflect- say the bioweapons were just old soviet leftovers being preserved, that they were being routinely destroyed after the invasion, emphasize their peacetime applications, etc etc. Instead we were told that the entire story was a hoax and made up Russian propaganda, no such facilities existed, no bioweapons existed, no western funding existed, and anyone spreading those claims was a traitor punishable by death as Mitt Romney just had to chime in, the bloodthirsty firebrand he is.

It gets hard to call out the other side as propaganda when your own side is lying nonstop
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Quote (Goomshill @ 16 Mar 2022 15:14)
Biolabs with anthrax, plague, etc are biolabs with bioweapons. Anthrax, plague, etc are bioweapons. B = C, A + B = A + C
The whole western media sphere really shot themselves in the foot on the coverage of this by taking completely the wrong tack. There was plenty of opportunity to minimize and deflect- say the bioweapons were just old soviet leftovers being preserved, that they were being routinely destroyed after the invasion, emphasize their peacetime applications, etc etc. Instead we were told that the entire story was a hoax and made up Russian propaganda, no such facilities existed, no bioweapons existed, no western funding existed, and anyone spreading those claims was a traitor punishable by death as Mitt Romney just had to chime in, the bloodthirsty firebrand he is.

It gets hard to call out the other side as propaganda when your own side is lying nonstop


biolab weapons conspiracy is yours, along with Russia or China dictatorships. How much do they pay you for that ?
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 16 2022 10:14am)
Biolabs with anthrax, plague, etc are biolabs with bioweapons.


Only if you define every infectious disease sample as a biological weapon.

Darn I didn't know I worked at a bioweapons facility.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 16 2022 10:42am)
Only if you define every infectious disease sample as a biological weapon.

Darn I didn't know I worked at a bioweapons facility.


If your infectious disease samples are weaponizable. Nerf's Super Soaker department are not arms dealers. Samples of powdery mildew at the horticultural biological research laboratory developing apple cultivars doesn't make for a weapon of war or terrorism.
We're talking about plague and anthrax and more unknowns, leftovers from the USSR's bioweapons programs. Pretty sure if you were at a BSL-3+ facility you'd know it.
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