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Dec 17 2021 12:43am
you can thank all the fat vaxxers eating up the food supply for that one.
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Dec 17 2021 01:12am
Quote (Santara @ Dec 16 2021 03:42pm)
It's a formula for inflation, not a full on explanation of extenuating circumstances.

M went up 40%. M2, to be precise, mostly through government stimulus payments, and the Federal Reserve with 120 billion/month in bond/MBS purchases.
V went down 27%.


Anything that tries to explain inflation and doesn't have a supply term is not applicable to our current circumstance where supply has been diminished and productivity has been lowered. It could just as well be that price points went up which lowered the velocity of money. There's no reason to treat price levels purely as the dependent variable.

M1 went up but it wasn't mostly due to money printing. It was mostly due to shifting from M2 to M1.

This video is really good and is by a professional economist. At about 8:30 he talks about the change in M1 and M2 money supply changes. This came out in August, well after stimulus and lots of federal reserve activity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkClrikc1bk


There was a substantial change in the definition of M1, which changed M1 to include savings and other checkable deposits. This makes M1 look like it went up drastically. Additionally, lots of people took money from fixed savings accounts (M2) and put them in checking or spent the money (M1).


So the argument that the monetary supply is causing the current sustained inflation falls flat on its face when you examine the data. It's the supply chain, all the economists know it. At least, all the honest ones.

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Quote (Jupe @ Dec 15 2021 03:37pm)
went to the grocery store and holy shit you guys are right. The once 99 cent package of cookies I buy from Aldi's that only has a measly 1500 calories total is now selling for $1.29. I left the store shaking after I saw that, I don't even know how I'm going to eat tonight


lmao he had planned to eat cookies for his evening meal, try macdonalds maybe its a bit less of transformed shit ? everything is fine in america, get vaccines because covid is very deadly (to americans)

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Dec 17 2021 02:03am
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_m2_money_supply

Looks like January 2020 to now we've seen an M2 increase from 15.41T to 21.19T.

Large increase, but a lot of that was taking from retirement accounts by people who were unemployed during the time there was no penalty in response to Covid.

There were also a lot of cash inflows during this time period. I'm trying to look at that compared to the historical.



It's surprisingly hard to find these numbers. Lots of places want subscriptions for data.



Another big factor is increased demand. Lots more shopping while people were at home, which at the same time as having a supply chain issue. Same cause fundamentally.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 17 2021 01:12am)
Anything that tries to explain inflation and doesn't have a supply term is not applicable to our current circumstance where supply has been diminished and productivity has been lowered. It could just as well be that price points went up which lowered the velocity of money. There's no reason to treat price levels purely as the dependent variable.

M1 went up but it wasn't mostly due to money printing. It was mostly due to shifting from M2 to M1.

This video is really good and is by a professional economist. At about 8:30 he talks about the change in M1 and M2 money supply changes. This came out in August, well after stimulus and lots of federal reserve activity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkClrikc1bk


There was a substantial change in the definition of M1, which changed M1 to include savings and other checkable deposits. This makes M1 look like it went up drastically. Additionally, lots of people took money from fixed savings accounts (M2) and put them in checking or spent the money (M1).


So the argument that the monetary supply is causing the current sustained inflation falls flat on its face when you examine the data. It's the supply chain, all the economists know it. At least, all the honest ones.


That data examination you linked argues against hyperinflation, which I am not asserting. I'll address the rest as able. Later.
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Dec 17 2021 07:18am
Quote (Melatonina @ Dec 17 2021 03:00am)
lmao he had planned to eat cookies for his evening meal, try macdonalds maybe its a bit less of transformed shit ? everything is fine in america, get vaccines because covid is very deadly (to americans)


considering nearly half of Americans are obese and have heart disease that does sound right :rofl:
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Dec 17 2021 09:00am
Quote (Jupe @ Dec 17 2021 08:18am)
considering nearly half of Americans are obese and have heart disease that does sound right :rofl:


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Dec 17 2021 09:17am
Quote (GodSmiter @ Dec 17 2021 09:00am)
diggin the new pic


The pedo profile page?
Beyond disgusting...
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Dec 17 2021 09:26am
If gas prices are going up that means they want you at home more.

if gas prices are going down that means they want you spending more while polluting the earth at the same time.


gotta learn how global chess works.
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Quote (lodd222 @ Dec 17 2021 09:26am)
If gas prices are going up that means they want you at home more.

if gas prices are going down that means they want you spending more while polluting the earth at the same time.


gotta learn how global chess works.


and learn that global warming is not caused by pollution.
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