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Dec 8 2021 09:34am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 8 2021 10:19am)
More terrible social cohesion than Detroit, LA, NYC? I doubt it.

The tail wagging argument about income is a classic Commie trope too. Poverty doesn't cause crime. Crime causes poverty. Mathematics of income and crime rates prove this in every time and location it is measured.


The idea that poverty causes crime is about as basic socioeconomic theory as it comes.
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Quote (Leevee @ Dec 8 2021 10:27am)
I'd love to see a source on that, but I'm just an average user on an Internet forum so I'm not going to pretend that I would read your source if you did share it.
Let's just say that I have never heard anyone non-ironically suggesting that crime causes poverty significantly more than vice versa, and if you think there's mathematics that prove this then I'll preemptively say that these mathematics are off.


Poor whites commit less crime than poor blacks or hispanics with the same income. Because of that, the median income is higher in the first population.

The only blatantly consistent cause of crime is single motherhood/lack of a father.

Life is extremely simple to understand if you don't assume neurotic motives to everything.

Quote (toyake @ Dec 8 2021 10:34am)
The idea that poverty causes crime is about as basic socioeconomic theory as it comes.


And stupid and wrong. It's like believing in Santa Clause, you're just admitting that you've never actually looked any of it up.

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And stupid and wrong. It's like believing in Santa Clause, you're just admitting that you've never actually looked any of it up.


Always enjoy the irony of you pulling that card. :)
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Quote (Leevee @ Dec 8 2021 03:22am)
I can't speak for Luxembourg, but I can tell you that Belgium's population is not more intelligent than any other country's, and also that Belgium deals with terrible "social cohesion" issues.

Low crime rates tend to stem from poverty, not the other way around. So when you say Belgium is a good place to live because of low crime rates, it sounds a bit like a tail wagging its dog.

So I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make.


belgium and US indeed have nearly identical average IQ scores.
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Dec 8 2021 09:53am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 8 2021 10:35am)
Poor whites commit less crime than poor blacks or hispanics with the same income. Because of that, the median income is higher in the first population.

The only blatantly consistent cause of crime is single motherhood/lack of a father.

Life is extremely simple to understand if you don't assume neurotic motives to everything.



And stupid and wrong. It's like believing in Santa Clause, you're just admitting that you've never actually looked any of it up.


Oh fuck yeah tell me more about all your research.

What's the number 1 piece of evidence that's convinced you that crime causes poverty?
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Oh fuck yeah tell me more about all your research.

What's the number 1 piece of evidence that's convinced you that crime causes poverty?



Literally what I just posted. Crime rates by income vs income distributions.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 8 2021 11:35am)
Literally what I just posted. Crime rates by income vs income distributions.


u got convinced the chicken came before the egg when u watched a chicken lay an egg?
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 8 2021 11:40am)
u got convinced the chicken came before the egg when u watched a chicken lay an egg?



Because youre a bad troll. Read the post prior
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 8 2021 11:35am)
Literally what I just posted. Crime rates by income vs income distributions.


You tryna 13/50 meme?

If it's crime that causes the poverty and whites do less crime but are still in the same income level, are you arguing that white people are inherently less intelligent and thus cannot earn higher wages despite committing less crime?
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Dec 8 2021 10:46am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 8 2021 11:42am)
Because youre a bad troll. Read the post prior


the poor whites u refer to are largely more rural where crime detection is fairly sparse, vs urban blacks where crime is under a microscope.

your tendency to look at things in a binary to cater to your biases is as cute as it is constant.
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