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Nov 30 2021 08:51am
somehow this is the fault of Apartheid and white people.
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Gonna be a treat so see Democrats and liberal media eat crow when blue state governors in the north have to reintroduce restrictions this winter after they spent all summer trashing the GOP governors and the low vax rates in the south...


Why would that require eating crow exactly?

Winter is always worse for respiratory viruses. The red states were having outbreaks in the middle of summer.
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Why would that require eating crow exactly?

Winter is always worse for respiratory viruses. The red states were having outbreaks in the middle of summer.


You're still ignoring that seasonality works different in the south than the north. In the south, people flock to air-conditioned indoor venues during the summer months while people in the north mostly spend time indoors during winter. Just look at last summer (20) and winter(20/21): a summer surge and a relatively mild winter in the south, a calm summer and a really bad winter in the north.

Bashing the south, respectively its governors and people, for seeing the same kind of surge again during this year's summer, particularly with a new, hyper-infectious variant in circulation, was not justified in any way shape or form. This criticism was actively ignoring evidence and reason in favor of scoring a political point.
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Nov 30 2021 09:48am
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 30 2021 09:45am)
You're still ignoring that seasonality works different in the south than the north. In the south, people flock to air-conditioned indoor venues during the summer months while people in the north mostly spend time indoors during winter. Just look at last summer (20) and winter(20/21): a summer surge and a relatively mild winter in the south, a calm summer and a really bad winter in the north.

Bashing the south, respectively its governors and people, for seeing the same kind of surge again during this year's summer, particularly with a new, hyper-infectious variant in circulation, was not justified in any way shape or form. This criticism was actively ignoring evidence and reason in favor of scoring a political point.


TIL people don't flock to air conditioned indoor venues in the north during the summer, or southerners don't flock to outdoor places like beaches or amusement parks.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 30 2021 09:45am)
You're still ignoring that seasonality works different in the south than the north. In the south, people flock to air-conditioned indoor venues during the summer months while people in the north mostly spend time indoors during winter. Just look at last summer (20) and winter(20/21): a summer surge and a relatively mild winter in the south, a calm summer and a really bad winter in the north.

Bashing the south, respectively its governors and people, for seeing the same kind of surge again during this year's summer, particularly with a new, hyper-infectious variant in circulation, was not justified in any way shape or form. This criticism was actively ignoring evidence and reason in favor of scoring a political point.


Except that's not exactly how it works, because we don't see flu epidemics in the south every year in the summer. If the south had small outbreaks in summer due to those factors you would have a defensible position, but instead they had hospital-overwhelming surges due to their low vaccination rates.

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Except that's not exactly how it works, because we don't see flu epidemics in the south every year in the summer. If the south had small outbreaks in summer due to those factors you would have a defensible position, but instead they had hospital-overwhelming surges.


The flu is much less contagious. You yourself constantly stress how a simple measure like mask-wearing was able to all but eliminate the flu during winter. And it probably has a slightly different seasonality. Different types of virus might be affected by humidity, sunshine duration or social mixing to different degrees.

So it's well possible for the R(t) of the flu to be, say, 0.8 during summer in the south, but 0.6 or so in the north; then it flips during winter to become, say, 1.1 in the south and 1.5 in the north.
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The whole point is that it has been unfairly politicized to get people to falsely believe that republican governors are incapable of keeping their states safe.

It pains me to type that because now all I can do is picture those psycho teachers from Chicago doing interpretive dance.

All you hear about all summer but as soon as the trends reverse it is crickets. Two years in a row now. Every now and then you get a “Republicans react to democrats being hypocritical and just as terrible if not worse” story where they blame interstate travel for everything.

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The flu is much less contagious. You yourself constantly stress how a simple measure like mask-wearing was able to all but eliminate the flu during winter. And it probably has a slightly different seasonality. Different types of virus might be affected by humidity, sunshine duration or social mixing to different degrees.

So it's well possible for the R(t) of the flu to be, say, 0.8 during summer in the south, but 0.6 or so in the north; then it flips during winter to become, say, 1.1 in the south and 1.5 in the north.


And if the southern governments didn't actively contradict safety measures they would have a much lower surge. They were overwhelmed when there was no reason for the surges to be that bad

The southern states haven't taken the necessary safety measures so they get double the waves. Not that hard

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somehow this is the fault of Apartheid and white people.


elaborate. who says that, and what's the reasoning?
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