Capitalism is not as old as time. Capitalism has only existed for a few hundred years.

I think you are confusing markets with capitalism. There are many market based economic systems that are not capitalism. Feudalism had markets, and yet it was not capitalist. Socialism has markets, and is not capitalist.



You also can't separate economic systems from political systems because the laws of a country are built around its economic system. Things that are legal in communist countries are illegal in capitalist countries, and vice versa. What is "growing and selling the food I own" in capitalism is "stealing from the lord" in a feudal society.

I think you're making quite a few leaps here. Let's pretend that the crowd was saying "George Floyd is a n****er" or something else that was highly inappropriate. Would it be leftist to say, "The crowd is saying 'good job driver?'" Do you think the reporter should have just ignored it? What is the appropriate response to profanity?

My position is that she was covering for the profanity and not Joe Biden because that's what they are trained to do and I've seen reporters do this for basically every sport.

dude you are showing how little you understand politics so fucking hard rn rofl

No. No leftist outlet would attempt to restate the words of the crowd in that regards. First, they'd beep out the hard R, then they'd use the chant to prove that Nascar fans are racists and Trumpism is clearly rampant in Nascar.

It's not possible to cover for profanity when the profanity is occurring. One of two things happens: If it's a true live report, then the profanity comes through to the viewers. If it's a 10 second delayed report, as is more typical, then the profanity is beeped out.



Capitalism is the private ownership and trade of capital. Capital is anything that can be used to produce an end product (tools, vehicles, land, buildings, etc.) Feudalism had capitalism. The capital simply wasn't available to everyone involved. Serfs and such (people who were owned by nobles/royals) couldn't own anything. However, tradesman and such certainly owned and traded in capital. Likewise, Socialist systems by nature indulge in capitalism. However, as it's the midway point to communism, where private ownership and trade of capital is part of the system, it's highly regulated by the government, and there's always a bureaucrat involved in your ability to do with your capital as you will.

Even a nation such as China still utilizes capitalism in it's current model. There are very few societies that have ever existed that did not utilize capitalism. The primary reason why is any system where there's no private ownership of capital leaves 100% of all ownership in the hands of those who control the state, which invariably leads to either revolution, or economic collapse.

Your points are not only uneducated, poorly considered, and wrong, but grow worse given that you're attempting to justify your desire to "overthrow" capitalism in the US and turn it into a totalitarian system because it favors capitalism as an economic model. We are a trade nation. The promise of using trade to become successful and achieve the "American Dream" is the very ideal that attracts millions per year to attempt to migrate to the US.

If you really want to live in a place that doesn't have Capitalism, why not move to Venezuela, or Cuba? I'm sure they'd be interested in a medical research manager, no?



Your post is useless, as is your opinion.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 9 2021 04:58pm

I never claimed she was Democrat or Republican.
You made a claim, I searched for evidence of your claim what I posted is the best I could come up with since people are lazy as fuck here.

"Kelli Stavast's Voter Registration
Party Affiliation: Non-Partisan
Registered to Vote In: Clark County, Nevada "

Your claim directed me to research and here is where i ended up.
https://voterrecords.com/voter/27222474/kelli-stavast

I don't need to prove anything as I just wanted the source that you made us all think was easily obtainable and common knowledge. "Dude just trust me, she's a nascar reporter"
It's obvious what you were trying to do.

A lie, then saying "Oh I was only pretending to be retarded" isn't gonna cut it.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Nov 9 2021 05:15pm

Nevermind, I'm tired of arguing with liars.
This place is truly a shit hole.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Nov 9 2021 05:14pm

Burn.

So why didn't she say, "NASCAR fans are disrespecting the office of the United States and they aren't patriotic?" I like to give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these things and my money would be on it's an awkward cover up for profanity. Ultimately, it doesn't matter though, because I think people should say that Biden is a worthless sack of shit, they should laugh that his wife and kids are dead, etc. This is America and if we wanted to be polite, we'd live in Europe.



You're reading WAY too much into what I said. I was responding to the claim that she was a leftist. I think you need to calm down and realize that we're on the same side.

This is PaRD. 98% of all posts are shitposts.

If you opened this forum expecting to engage in meaningful conversation and debate, your expectations were flawed.

In all honesty, you'll have more meaningful political debates on twitter or facebook than here. Probably more honest, too.



No self-aware reporter could talk about disrespecting the office after everything they said about Trump while he was in office. Further, you cannot say a direct "Fuck this person" is a disrespect to the office.

Ultimately we agree that Biden is shit, no argument there. Just that your attempts to cover for the reporter's attempt to lie about the crowd chant to make it less damaging to biden is hilarious.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 9 2021 05:31pm

I expected to have less grifting, lying and actual sources to claims.
People are lazy as fuck here, or they just bait for warn.