What kind of cereal did you have for breakfast this morning?

A vegan Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

In the Communist sense, no. You're not allowed to take it because the government has rationed it to me, and not you. Likewise, I could not take your bread and milk because the government issued it to you.

I would be very hesitant to consider "government rations" as property at all. Consumables? Sure. One of the key features of property ownership is choice. In Communism, however, distribution is not based on what you choice to receive, but what the government chooses to provide you. You do not have the right to trade your excess or unwanted for someone else's alternative consumable, nor do you have the right to "sell" your rationed end products, because in the end, that rationed end product is still property of the people of [insert communist shithole here].

This is why 3M was blocked from shipping PPE to the US early last year. It didn't matter that it was US wealth, engineering methods, or US paid labor that produced these products. They were produced in China, therefore belong to the people of China. 3M had the option to sell to the Chinese at the government-dictated price, or have both the product and production facilities seized.

Now, it's very easy to say, "China isn't true communist!" and that's true, to a point. It's harder to point at the USSR as not true communist, which is why they're the tried and true example.

The most basic issue with Communism, which is a very utopian worldview, is that it's not possible in a "pure" form due to human nature. The majority will not abide by the rules unless there is enforcement, and the majority are unable to defend themselves from said enforcement. At that point, whoever leads that enforcement, ends up with ultimate power over the populace. Hence why all forms of communism ultimately lead to dictatorship.

And what if it's an item that the government hasn't rationed to you, but that you've made yourself through your own labor? Can I take it then?

Yep. And I believe that communist governments also take away people's guns as the first thing they do when they get into power. This is so that the populaces will remain unable to defend themselves against the state/s.

This is in the secret communist play-book, you won't find it in their "manifestos". And I believe that currently there are strong, shadow forces acting in the States, trying to take guns away from law-abiding Americans. I caution Americans: communists might be gone, but their spiritual successors are still around, and they are actively trying to conquer your nation.

You probably can't, cause the government will have taken it from me already.

But what if I attempted to first? Am I allowed to take it from you without recourse or complaint?

How are you able to make a product through your own labor? You don't own any tools, vehicles, or land, or the raw materials to produce anything. Those are owned by the government. Communism is all about equity. You cannot produce all things you need for your life. Therefore you are assigned to the field of labor where you are the most apt, and all end products you produce belong to "the people" not you. It's up to the government to equitably distribute what you need to you based on your labors for the whole.

Again, Communism is a utopian fantasy.

I think it depends on what the communist government says. If it says you can rob me, then yes you can. If it says no, then I guess not.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Sep 12 2021 03:05pm

What if someone makes milk via their own lactation?