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Feb 10 2021 11:13pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 9 2021 11:11pm)
You're a man of evidence. Show me evidence that it's "atomizing the droplets even further" by wearing a mask, because we have actual evidence including high speed footage and masks are superior to just covering your mouth in every way when it comes to droplets.

my stuff is for reasonable people. any reasonable person can understand what would happen to a droplet if its forced through smaller holes than it self. Its also proven with vape experiments. Which i have posted here n there it the "no mask" thread.

this go around I am going to prove you go against the science. In fact i am going to show that you are the magic people.
TheNEW ENGLAND JOURNALofMEDICINE
May 21, 2020
Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 EraMichael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?articleTools=true

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"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")


did you even read the full article? or did you stop once you read something that you thought supported you? because if you read the whole article, it makes it clear that masks DO work, but that there are OTHER issues such as hand washing that need to accompany it for it to be fully effective. if you had read past that single sentence you picked out, youd have seen that it says that because there isnt as much NEED for the protection outside healthcare facilities as the length of interaction with others, and therefore exposure, is minimal. it doesnt say that because masks work inside a healthcare facility but somehow magically stop working once you step outside it.


Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 10 2021 06:35pm)
vape right through the mask, vape is water droplets.
Air quality with in masks has also been tested
you go watch TV


as was said above, youre either trolling or retarded. vape 'smoke' is not water vapor/droplets. "vaporized e-liquid comprises of vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine, and food grade flavorings" . (https://vaping360.com/learn/difference-between-smoke-and-vapor/) no water vapor, therefore it cannot be compared to water droplets from breathing/coughing/sneezing/etc.

the air quality claim is nonsense as well. even if the air inside the mask WERE poor quality, look at how much air is inside the mask compared to how much air your lungs can hold. the air inside the mask is only a small percentage of what you get with each breath.

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did you even read the full article? or did you stop once you read something that you thought supported you? because if you read the whole article, it makes it clear that masks DO work, but that there are OTHER issues such as hand washing that need to accompany it for it to be fully effective. if you had read past that single sentence you picked out, youd have seen that it says that because there isnt as much NEED for the protection outside healthcare facilities as the length of interaction with others, and therefore exposure, is minimal. it doesnt say that because masks work inside a healthcare facility but somehow magically stop working once you step outside it.




as was said above, youre either trolling or retarded. vape 'smoke' is not water vapor/droplets. "vaporized e-liquid comprises of vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine, and food grade flavorings" . (https://vaping360.com/learn/difference-between-smoke-and-vapor/) no water vapor, therefore it cannot be compared to water droplets from breathing/coughing/sneezing/etc.

the air quality claim is nonsense as well. even if the air inside the mask WERE poor quality, look at how much air is inside the mask compared to how much air your lungs can hold. the air inside the mask is only a small percentage of what you get with each breath.


page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")
page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")
page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")
page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")

"only a small percentage of what you get with each breath"
(what is the percentage?) you say a small percent are you going to decide that "small" percentage is negligible? At least you are aware that it does lower quality of air even if just a tiny tiny bit. which would still be a chit trade of for something that doesnt stop viruses.

"somehow magically stop working once you step outside it. "
(no i never fuking said that what the fug is wrong with you mask zombies?)

"vaporized e-liquid comprises of vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine, and food grade flavorings"
it will coast right through a mask but water vapor wont ya right. saw a vid of ice skaters in cold weather one could see their breath I could show that but it will just be excuses. Or i could show actual data comparing mask states with non mask states showing masks are a joke but then excuses will just follow. so I guess its just a coin flip who becomes mask zombies and who cant hang a lie on their face.

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Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 11 2021 12:13am)
did you even read the full article? or did you stop once you read something that you thought supported you? because if you read the whole article, it makes it clear that masks DO work, but that there are OTHER issues such as hand washing that need to accompany it for it to be fully effective. if you had read past that single sentence you picked out, youd have seen that it says that because there isnt as much NEED for the protection outside healthcare facilities as the length of interaction with others, and therefore exposure, is minimal. it doesnt say that because masks work inside a healthcare facility but somehow magically stop working once you step outside it.




as was said above, youre either trolling or retarded. vape 'smoke' is not water vapor/droplets. "vaporized e-liquid comprises of vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine, and food grade flavorings" . (https://vaping360.com/learn/difference-between-smoke-and-vapor/) no water vapor, therefore it cannot be compared to water droplets from breathing/coughing/sneezing/etc.

the air quality claim is nonsense as well. even if the air inside the mask WERE poor quality, look at how much air is inside the mask compared to how much air your lungs can hold. the air inside the mask is only a small percentage of what you get with each breath.



Once I figured out he was retarded I decided I’m not going to waste my time conversing with him nor waiting for him to post the simplest evidence of a claim that is obviously as retarded as he is. He’s probably not even going to read what you said, if he is even capable of comprehending it, which I also doubt. I suggest you do the same. He’s as useless and creepily odd as a marionette show in 2021.
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Once I figured out he was retarded I decided I’m not going to waste my time conversing with him nor waiting for him to post the simplest evidence of a claim that is obviously as retarded as he is. He’s probably not even going to read what you said, if he is even capable of comprehending it, which I also doubt. I suggest you do the same. He’s as useless and creepily odd as a marionette show in 2021.


that vape goes through a mask with ease, mask zombie
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Feb 10 2021 11:31pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 11 2021 12:30am)
that vape goes through a mask with ease, mask zombie



I rest my case
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Quote (youngs1n @ Feb 10 2021 09:31pm)
I rest my case


a reasonable person would consider the implication of the vape mask experiment. but we are talking to mask zombies here.

what was the excuse for this one?
then there is data collection.
The Scientific Method
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Feb 10 2021 11:53pm
vape 'smoke' is not water vapor/droplets.
not water vapor/droplets
not water vapor/droplets
not water vapor/droplets


then why does this one say it does contain water vapor??????
then why does this one say it does contain water vapor??????
then why does this one say it does contain water vapor??????

Electronic smoking devices (ESDs) do not just emit “harmless water vapor.” Secondhand aerosol (incorrectly called vapor by the industry) from ESDs contains nicotine, ultrafine particles and low levels of toxins that are known to cause cancer.

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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 11 2021 12:53am)
vape 'smoke' is not water vapor/droplets.
not water vapor/droplets
not water vapor/droplets
not water vapor/droplets


then why does this one say it does contain water vapor??????
then why does this one say it does contain water vapor??????
then why does this one say it does contain water vapor??????

Electronic smoking devices (ESDs) do not just emit “harmless water vapor.” Secondhand aerosol (incorrectly called vapor by the industry) from ESDs contains nicotine, ultrafine particles and low levels of toxins that are known to cause cancer.


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Quote (ReturnFormer @ Feb 10 2021 10:03pm)
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ya looks like you were false about water vapor bonking your own mask zombie head
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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 11 2021 01:05am)
ya looks like you were false about water vapor bonking your own mask zombie head


if you were half as smart as you think you are you would realize that what you quoted does NOT state that vape "smoke" contains water vapor. it says that it isnt just water vapor to contradict those who mistakenly think it is, not to imply that it does. it then lists what it DOES contain, which says nothing about water vapor.
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